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Silence In Syria, Panic In Iran
To The Point News ^ | 19 September, 2007 | Dr. Jack Wheeler

Posted on 09/26/2007 10:31:25 AM PDT by Salem

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To: CarrotAndStick; Gengis Khan; Srirangan; sukhoi-30mki; indcons; DoctorZIn; derheimwill; Entebbe; ...

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241 posted on 09/26/2007 10:45:43 PM PDT by Wiz
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To: Kevmo

I believe in creation, so I think evolution is a man-made story to take the place of God and his special act of creating the earh. In the same way, God tells us how the world will end in the prophetic verses of Revelations. The Global Warming believers have created a man-made story to tell us how they think the world will end.

I hope this makes sense. I prefer to believe God’s Word which has been shown to be infallible, not man’s theories, which have changed hundreds of times.


242 posted on 09/26/2007 10:49:49 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Global warming is to Revelations as the theory of evolution is to Genesis.)
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To: grey_whiskers

I wonder if he has Kleinfelter’s Syndrome.


243 posted on 09/26/2007 10:52:04 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Global warming is to Revelations as the theory of evolution is to Genesis.)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

Cool.

You might be interested in a discussion I recently where my reliance on the historicity that the crucifixion of Christ was the best attested event in history was labeled “psychotic”.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1898447/posts?page=229#229


244 posted on 09/26/2007 10:58:16 PM PDT by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: Boundless

interesting thought.....


245 posted on 09/26/2007 11:03:54 PM PDT by Walkingfeather (u)
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To: Kevmo

I totally agree about forming a new country called Kurdistan. The Kurds deserve their own sovereign country after the loyalty and gratitude they’ve shown us. Assyrian Christians would be welcome there I am sure, giving them a safe refuge should they need it. They have been great allies. As for the Sunni/Wahhabists and Shias, they will have to fight it out or agree to get along. A free Kurdistan would help us with Iran and keep Turkey in line, too. No downside to it that I can see.


246 posted on 09/26/2007 11:12:40 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Global warming is to Revelations as the theory of evolution is to Genesis.)
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To: Son Of The Godfather

hmmm dont bet on it. Russia is one of the biggest arms suppliers to the world. This little raid just put them in a serious marketing tailspin. If the Syrians not only were blind but didnt realize they were blind then this was some serious military voodoo that happened.

You can bet the israelis and us for that matter have breached their borders for a while without any alarms going off since they had to travel so deep into syrian territory.


247 posted on 09/26/2007 11:12:57 PM PDT by Walkingfeather (u)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

Kurdistan, the 2nd democracy in the Middle East. Wait, the 3rd. Israel, Iraq, Kurdistan. Then after that comes Persia and Syria or whatever those tribal areas naturally devolve into. The more countries (especially democracies), the merrier. America finally exporting democracy, I like that plan.


248 posted on 09/26/2007 11:37:03 PM PDT by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: Salem

I think Israel should not engage in a joint operation against Iran. Instead, while US attacks Iran, Israel has an option to attack Syria. US could deal with Iran on its own, and it is more effective for Israel to strike Syria soon afterward for its accessibility to Syria. For US, it would be much better to nail Syria, and Hezbollah in the area, so Hezbollah would not be able send reinforcement and supply to the Iranian force.


249 posted on 09/26/2007 11:39:26 PM PDT by Wiz
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To: Pride in the USA; Stillwaters

Oh, my. This is sooooo good.


250 posted on 09/26/2007 11:45:57 PM PDT by lonevoice (It's always "Apologize to a Muslim Hour"...somewhere)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
To make the system completely broken down may need more than fancy countermeasures on F-15. What did Israeli do?

One possibility is a directed-energy weapon (like the Conventional EMP bomb)

251 posted on 09/27/2007 4:39:00 AM PDT by PapaBear3625
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To: Wiz

Excellent read


252 posted on 09/27/2007 5:46:02 AM PDT by indcons
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To: Salem
Honestly I wont trust Syrian ability to do any serious damage even with hi-tech American air defense systems. Its not that the Russian systems are bad. Air defense systems are not some toys that you can just buy off the shelf and put to use. New systems have to undergo several rounds of trials especially in battlefield conditions which would be different in Syrian desert then those in Russia. Next you have to train your personnel to use the systems and also be able to carry out proper maintenance. Integrating and operating and a whole air defense network is among the most complex strategic operation. Its not just some piece of junk equipment but a whole defense/network infrastructure thats has several components thats have to work in coordination. A new system take significant amount of time and expertise to operationalize and thats true even for the most technologically advanced countries. You cant just buys some hardware from another country and expect them to work overnight under prevailing conditions.
253 posted on 09/27/2007 6:02:49 AM PDT by Gengis Khan
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To: Salem; Wiz; sukhoi-30mki
Form the article:

“IDF: Syria’s antiaircraft system most advanced in world”

“Some of these missiles were snatched from the production lines even before being introduced into Russian operation service.”

Thats never a good idea considering India’s experience with Russian equipments. Russian systems even when sufficiently advanced have to go through several rounds of trouble shooting and fixing of glitches before it can provide reliable performance. And Russians have habit of bragging about their weaponry long before it has even reach a stage where it can provide the bare minimum functionality. Considering that off the shelf purchases were made in 2007, it would be highly surprising if that have the air defense network has been operationalized already.

254 posted on 09/27/2007 6:22:25 AM PDT by Gengis Khan
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To: Salem

Thank God for this good news.


255 posted on 09/27/2007 6:29:16 AM PDT by AmericaUnite
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To: Gengis Khan

Excellent points..I agree.

It’s either what you say or the Syrians are too dumb to configure/operate/maintain advanced weapons systems. Might well be a combination of both.


256 posted on 09/27/2007 6:37:02 AM PDT by indcons
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To: Kevmo

Sounds interesting... I’ll take a look. Thanks!


257 posted on 09/27/2007 7:17:35 AM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Global warming is to Revelations as the theory of evolution is to Genesis.)
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To: Gengis Khan

The Russian workers in the old Soviet Union used to say, “We pretend to work, and they pretend to pay us.” The country has gotten marginally better since then, but old habits die hard. The Russians aren’t best in class in anything (well, except bread, but that’s not a strategic weapon, yet).


258 posted on 09/27/2007 7:27:36 AM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Global warming is to Revelations as the theory of evolution is to Genesis.)
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To: Gengis Khan

Typical hyperbole.From the Ynet article,the only new SAM systems,Syria has now ,is the SA-22 Pantsir & SA-24 short range systems,along with a bunch of SA-3s(1960s vintage) & SA-6(70s).There is no proof that Syria has ordered or has received S-300s.Even if they have,it takes atleast 3-5 years to build an integrated air defense system.


259 posted on 09/27/2007 8:27:36 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: OESY

I think Ahmed A Nut Job wants to go down as a martyr so he can get his 72 virgins. The best way he can do this is provoke a war with the U.S. & Israel before he is deposed from within Iran.

This was a great story today and truly the silence by Syria is deafening.

God bless America!


260 posted on 09/27/2007 8:52:10 AM PDT by Lions Gate
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