The same in posture, but worse for the GOP...
Posted on 09/26/2007 5:40:25 AM PDT by Liz
A supporter of Rudy Giuliani aims to raise $9.11 per person at the campaign's national house party night at Abraham Sofaer's Palo Alto, Calif, home on Wednesday.....Sofaer was a State Department adviser under President Reagan and is a fellow at Stanford's Hoover Institution
(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...
Even more frightening---this nitwit Sofaer who is actually lending his name to the atrocity----is on Rooty's list for WH appointments (gag).
It’s hard to say someone is making profit on only $9.11 per person. 9/11 is something Rudy supporters think was an important event not to be forgotten. Although not a Rudy supporter, I happen to agree with that. I’ve got no problem with this type of gimmick which is all it is. All campaigns have them.
This was clearly a stupid idea by a SUPPORTER of Rudy.....there is no evidence whatsoever that he endorsed this.
You see there are people here who think that Rudy is worse than Hillary Clinton and are willing to use the Guardian and dem hacks to go after him in the name of social conservatism.
These people are obviously idiots and amateurs. If you’re going to milk 9/11 you should milk it from the $911.00 level, not $9.11
The man you refer to as a “nitwit” served as legal adviser to the State Department under President Reagan and was appointed the first George P. Shultz Distinguished Scholar and Senior Fellow at the Hoover Institution in 1994. We’d be lucky to have him in government if Giuliani is elected. Honestly, I think some of you really want Hillary to be president rather than compromise at all.
Conservatarian... I like that.
I don’t think anybody should tie 9/11 into ANY fundraising gimmick. Sorry. It has nothing to do with it being Rudy. The left and the press have a field day with this kind of exploitation, and it makes all republicans look bad.
9/11 should be remembered, but NOT buy having fundraisers.
A couple of years ago another candidate gave out 9/11 commemorative tokens to people who donated money — that was wrong as well, and I wrote against it, even though I believe it was a good conservative republican doing it.
Bingo! Don't you see the great plan? Once Hillary is elected then the whole world will finally see that "real" conservatism is the only way to go. Then they will come in droves fostering a social conservative golden age! It's a plan crafted right out of the Clinton war room.
Sorry I don’t feel that way and I’m not offended. Nor was I offended with all the 9/11 magnets on cars that somebody profited on. After WWII II I would have gladly bought war bonds for $12.07 too.
The same in posture, but worse for the GOP...
Well, that’s some plan. LOL.
Anyone foolish enough to buy into it deserves to wake up every day for the next four to eight years knowing that that woman is the commander in chief of the most important country in the free world. But why do we deserve it?
Prostituting his name is apt too.
Rooty, the whore of 9-11
I don't think we do deserve it. But then I didn't think we deserved Bill Clinton either. He still won... and made it now possible for Hillary to run. Were a few years of Newt Gingrich's conservative Congress worth it? I bet there's lots of different opinions on that.
The definining moment was the government shutdown in the mid 90s and Newt’s loss of nerve. The chance to seriously reduce the size of the federal government was lost, perhaps irretrievably. But a lot of good came out of that congress nonetheless, including tax rate reductions and welfare reform. The gridlock of the 90s proved to be on balance good for the economy. Unfortunately, going forward gridlock won’t save us. The social security and medicare/medicaid landmines will start exploding in the coming years, here and even more dramatically in western Europe.
So with respect to the economy (only one important issue) the question is... who do you want to be in a position of power to propose solutions here? And who do you think people like you will have the most influence over? The actual primary votes (as opposed to daily push polls) will be interesting.
Very hard to predict at this point, as the fallout from these programs will take years to develop. Certainly adding another entitlement program on top of what we already have will not help. I will admit to a certain sadistic glee in seeing the Democrats, who have won election after election on how they “gave us” these programs now be the ones in power forced either to radically cut back these very programs or vote for a massive tax increase to fund them (or a combination of the above - a tax increase plus a cut in benefits). But, as Bill Rusher used to say, correctly predicting that the boat will sink is not very satisfying when you are on the boat.
Add this to his 'cellphone stunts' (where he highlighted the fact that he runs his cellphone just like he does his personal life--with no self-discipline, self-control or consideration for others),,,,and you see how classless Giuliani really is. Amazing.
I just don’t see a massive cut back to Social Security or Medicaid. The AARP will never allow it and there will be so many baby boomers that no politician will have the political will to do much of anything. Look how Republicans abandoned Bush’s modest proposal to privatize only a small part of the program. What WILL happen is that there will be massive increases in taxes to support the program. Any cutbacks will be made on those who are very young and have no political clout. Young people should have jumped on Bush’s proposal but they were too poisoned by MTV and were easily manipulated with propaganda about starving Grandma. That same thing will happen again.
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