[Michael.SF.]

oh, boy, are you going to get the Civil War fringe going with that observation.

I have long held, w/o Lincoln, there would have been no Roosevelt (FDR, not Teddy).

[gusopol3]

since there would have been no United States, you wouldn’t have had either; who would have been the hegemon, Hitler or Stalin, or would they have just carved it up between them?