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Boy survives two-hour flight to Moscow hanging onto plane wing (UPDATE @ #141)
RIA Novosti ^ | 24/ 09/ 2007 | Radio Maya

Posted on 09/25/2007 4:18:21 PM PDT by George from New England

MOSCOW, September 24 (RIA Novosti) - A 15-year-old boy from the Urals suffered acute frostbite after riding the wing of a Boeing-737 plane on a two-hour flight from Perm to Moscow, Russian radio station Mayak reported on Monday.

After clinging on for the entire 1300-kilometer (808-mile) flight to Vnukova Airport, the boy, named Andrei, collapsed onto the tarmac. His arms and legs were so severely frozen that rescuers were at first unable to remove his coat and shoes, the radio station said.

The airport did not confirm the report. "We have no information on this," the Vnukovo press service told RIA Novosti.

However, Moscow's air and water transport control department said the radio's claim was true. A department spokesman said the incident occurred on Friday, and that the boy's parents were immediately informed, and flew to the capital the same day.

Doctors said it was nothing short of a miracle that Andrei survived the flight, with temperatures hitting minus 50 degrees Celsius (-58 Fahrenheit), the radio station said. The Boeing-737 has a cruising speed of 900 kmh (560 mph).

The boy reportedly made the journey after a commonplace domestic dispute. Angry with his father, who reportedly has a drinking problem, and with his mother for siding with her husband in family rows, Andrei ran away to the neighboring village, where his grandmother lives. On reaching the village, he decided to go on, and hitched a 220-km (137-mile) ride to the regional center, Perm, where he was dropped off at the airport.

It remains unclear how Andrei was able to climb on a plane wing un-noticed, and the Perm Airport security service is being asked some serious questions, the radio station said.

Andrei is now being treated in a Moscow hospital, Radio Mayak said.


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To: RckyRaCoCo

Best use of the old bat this week!!!


121 posted on 09/25/2007 8:06:23 PM PDT by bmwcyle (BOMB, BOMB, BOMB,.......BOMB, BOMB IRAN)
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To: knews_hound
there is a zone of air around the trailing surfaces that moves at a significantly slower speed, which is the basis of lift.

This myth -- that the Bernoulli effect is what causes lift -- is so pervasive that even most pilots and geeky engineer types believe it. What actually happens is that the airfoil moves through the air at a slightly nose-up angle causing the air to be directed slightly downwards as it flows by. An "equal and opposite reaction" to the downward flow then occurs in the form of a lifting force. So it's actually an airflow vectoring effect, not Bernoulli, that lifts a plane.

The classical demonstration of the Bernoulli effect is to blow air over a strip of paper and watch as it rises, but actually this disproves the Bernoulli effect and proves the vectoring effect instead! If Bernoulli were the operative mechanism the strip would continue to rise and curl towards your face. But what actually happens is the strip rises till it's almost level and then rises no further. This is because the laminar flow is no longer directed downward, as it was when the paper was drooping, but rather outward and therefore not creating any lift.

That lift is caused by airflow vectoring is why symmetrical airfoils can work. It's also why the Wright brothers wing worked. Their airfoil seen in cross section was a curved line, not a volume-containing curve, so the air above and below the wing travelled the same distance. Since the Bernoulli effect requires the upper and lower flow to travel different distances (and therefore at different speeds), Bernoulli couldn't be what lifted the Wright brothers' aircraft. It actually was vectoring, just as it is on modern aircraft.

Pretty crazy, huh?

122 posted on 09/25/2007 8:06:47 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: BKerr

it’s not a matter of where it grips it... it’s a simple matter of weight ratios... a 4 ounce bird cannot carry a 5 pound coconut...

teeman8r


123 posted on 09/25/2007 8:08:52 PM PDT by teeman8r
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To: George from New England

I don’t believe it!


124 posted on 09/25/2007 8:10:12 PM PDT by toldyou
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To: George from New England
This could be possible.

In the Woody Allen film, Radio Days, a woman has a seizure when seeing one of the neighborhood girls giving a goodnight kiss to "a tall colored man."

The woman's body was frozen in position just as she was raising a cup of tea to her lips. She was transported to the hospital with that cup still at her lips. The people at the hospital said that they had never seen anything like it.

125 posted on 09/25/2007 8:12:02 PM PDT by SergeiRachmaninov
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To: Yardstick
Your explanation has made sense to me for a long time, but I think most aero textbooks still talk about "circulation", a concept that involves some pretty heavy math. One weird experience happened to me standing in a parking lot about half a mile from a Love Field runway. A DC-6 or DC-7 passed over on final approach, then about 20 or 30 seconds later there was a very gentle downwash which obviously came off the wings of the airplane. The air happened to be very still so that wind did not break up the downwash before it reached the ground.

I always wondered why Boeing built the B-17 and her sisters with a symmetrical airfoil, while the other heavy lifter of the era, the B-24, had a very advanced airfoil design. And for several reasons, the B-24 did outlift and outrange the B-17, but was more vulnerable to enemy fire.

126 posted on 09/25/2007 8:21:47 PM PDT by 19th LA Inf
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To: Yardstick

Pretty crazy, huh?

Makes perfect sense actually.


127 posted on 09/25/2007 8:28:21 PM PDT by knews_hound (In order to not be banned, I no longer discuss Politics here.)
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To: 19th LA Inf

When I was about ten years old I got a flight lesson for my birthday. The instructor gave me a brief blackboard lecture on lift that centered on the Bernoulli principle. Seems like I’ve also had science and physics textbooks that described lift according to Bernoulli. Maybe they’re getting it right in the aero texts though. I guess the proof’s in the pudding — there are some pretty good planes being built. That wouldn’t be the case if the engineers had the concept all wrong.

I would imagine that on approach with the flaps down, the air is getting directed downward pretty radically. In fact, the volume of air that would have to be going downward in order to generate an upward force strong enough to float a plane at low speed would have to be huge.


128 posted on 09/25/2007 8:38:39 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: ErnBatavia

Seems doubtful. You might survive that temperature bundled up with no wind...but with 500 MPH winds on top of it, he’d be an iceberg.


129 posted on 09/25/2007 8:42:13 PM PDT by RockinRight (Can we start calling Fred "44" now, please?)
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To: xsrdx

The windchill from being in a -58 degree F environment with 500 MPH winds is -164 degrees. There’s no friggin way he’d survive that.


130 posted on 09/25/2007 8:43:41 PM PDT by RockinRight (Can we start calling Fred "44" now, please?)
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To: knews_hound
Makes perfect sense actually.

Yeah, that's true. It fits nicely with how common sense says a wing ought to work. I always found Bernoulli hard to believe, even when I believed it.

131 posted on 09/25/2007 8:46:17 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: George from New England
The Boeing-737 has a cruising speed of 900 kmh (560 mph).

Was he holding on really tight? This is bogus.

132 posted on 09/25/2007 10:33:04 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: George from New England

Damned superglue.


133 posted on 09/25/2007 11:47:57 PM PDT by Pelham (The DREAM Act, amnesty by stealth + chain migration)
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To: Radix

But seriously folks the flight wasn’t that bad infact you could say it was a breeze!


134 posted on 09/25/2007 11:54:36 PM PDT by LukeL
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To: Stonewall Jackson

My grandpa told me a story once how when his father was about 15 he decided to hitch a ride on a train ( a distance about 20 miles) But instead of hopping on a cart he clung on to the underside of the train and held on the entire way. When the train finally stopped he was covered in ash and had minor burns from all the cinders.


135 posted on 09/25/2007 11:57:46 PM PDT by LukeL
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To: George from New England

And boy are his arms tired.


136 posted on 09/26/2007 12:29:45 AM PDT by CzarNicky (The problem with bad ideas is that they seemed like good ideas at the time.)
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To: Abigail Adams

From the article to which you provided the link - -

Andrey’s mother arrived in Moscow and took her son back home to Perm because the family could not afford the expensive treatment in Russia’s capital. A doctor from the Perm hospital, where the boy is staying at the moment, said that the tissue of the boy’s hands started dying away, which may make surgeons amputate both hands of the extreme passenger.


137 posted on 09/26/2007 1:28:58 AM PDT by Joya
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To: 19th LA Inf
I have a little blood oxygen meter that fits over my finger and it gives a little readout. What is interesting is that my physical condition makes a huge difference as to how high I can fly. If I am well rested, feeling good and use proper breathing techniques I can easily fly at 16,000' and maintain over 90% oxygen levels. The problem is that as I get tired (after an hour or so of flying) I can watch the oxygen level decline. I function semi OK with the oxygen level in the 80's but as it enters the 70's watch out : ) Simple decisions may be beyond me, just like your Fort Worth example.

The other thing I have noticed is that Sea level dwellers may have a lower blood oxygen level at 8000' feet than I do at 16,000'. The whole hypoxia thing seems to be very individual specific, but on the whole I think that the FAR's are a very good idea.

138 posted on 09/26/2007 7:31:13 AM PDT by LeGrande (Muslims, Jews and Christians all believe in the same God of Abraham.)
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To: ErnBatavia

There is no way a human being can hold on to a wing in 500 mph winds...
Maybe he did the wheel well thing?


139 posted on 09/26/2007 10:26:27 AM PDT by Little Ray (Rudy Guiliani: If his wives can't trust him, why should we?)
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To: ErnBatavia

They didn’t say it was that cold for all, or even much of the flight time. That was just the coldest it reached at all.


140 posted on 09/26/2007 10:37:10 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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