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Hunter: Communist China is Cheating on Trade
Campaigns and Elections ^ | 09/21/2007 | Roy Tyler

Posted on 09/24/2007 8:43:29 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007

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To: Ultra Sonic 007
"Our ability to field effective weapons systems is largely dependent on our American manufacturing base," said Hunter. "We cannot rely on foreign sources for critical elements of our systems."

This is common sense, no?

41 posted on 09/25/2007 8:00:35 AM PDT by MSF BU
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To: mc6809e
China is doing nothing wrong.

China is giving us cheap goods in exchange for an education in industrialism and modern production.

You're one of the few people on the FR who understands this concept. China's foreign exchange reserve, though valued at over a trillion dollars, still pales in comparison to the $50 trillion generated and consumed by the world every year.

So, what China is acquiring, is the know how to develop an economy that can someday generate goods and services in the tens of trillions/year.

42 posted on 09/25/2007 8:35:02 AM PDT by ponder life
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To: Hop A Long Cassidy

Communism is an economic theory not a political theory. (<—— notice the period)

Hop a long now.


43 posted on 09/25/2007 10:46:00 AM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

“As Chairman of the Armed Services Committee, Hunter sent his team into the country-side to find a company that could still make high grade armor plate steel to protect troops against roadside bombs in Iraq. “My team only found one such company left in America that could handle the challenge.”

Hunter calls this situation a sad come-down for a nation that produced a bomber every hour at the Ford Factory in Michigan during World War II.”

Another reason why Duncan Hunter will be the BEST candidate to protect our national security.


44 posted on 09/25/2007 10:57:41 AM PDT by Sun (Duncan Hunter: pro-God/life/borders, understands Red China threat, NRA A+rating! www.gohunter08.com)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007; JACKRUSSELL

Ping


45 posted on 09/25/2007 11:33:25 AM PDT by sweetiepiezer (Duncan Hunter .....................a man of his word.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
..getting the MSM to report this is like pushing a string through a maze!
46 posted on 09/25/2007 3:00:58 PM PDT by WalterSkinner ( In Memory of My Father--WWII Vet and Patriot 1926-2007)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007; 3D-JOY; abner; Abundy; AGreatPer; Albion Wilde; alisasny; ALlRightAllTheTime; ...

Duncan Hunter is Da MAN!


47 posted on 09/25/2007 3:37:11 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Oh, Geesh, not THIS crap AGAIN?!?)
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To: jedward
In good conscience, I have to give Hunter my full support for POTUS. DH’s my choice.

The more I hear him talk and read articles about him the more it's clear he the best choice for America. Period.

48 posted on 09/25/2007 5:51:56 PM PDT by MotleyGirl70 (Go Packers!)
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To: MotleyGirl70

“The more I hear him talk and read articles about him the more it’s clear he the best choice for America.”

Bump that!


49 posted on 09/25/2007 7:51:40 PM PDT by jedward (I'm not sure you meant, what I understand...or maybe you did.)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

Communism is NOT a theory. It’s a practice. Certain policies are enacted. No theory involved, though not practical, it is indeed practiced. I think don’t think the cold war occured due to the west’s fear of a theory.


50 posted on 09/25/2007 7:59:06 PM PDT by jedward (I'm not sure you meant, what I understand...or maybe you did.)
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To: Eric Blair 2084
Communism is an economic theory, not a political one. You can be a Capitalist economy and still be a Totalitarian thugocracy.

Excellent point. They have learned well, their successes in the stock market alone point to that. And we think of them as.. as what? Sort of fair trade global partners? Hmm, to our folly.

51 posted on 09/25/2007 8:03:25 PM PDT by fortunecookie (Finally catching up with posting...)
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To: jedward

I understand that. That wasn’t the issue. The poster was confusing Authoritarianism, Totalitarianism which is a political theory with Communism which is a economic theory.

Of course it has been practiced. And failed everywhere.


52 posted on 09/25/2007 8:07:22 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: fortunecookie

They are an authoritarian Capitalist regime.


53 posted on 09/25/2007 8:08:22 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: pissant
Wow. Bookmarking. It seems we've come a long way in a short time.

China’s friends seem to have adopted a rather jaded view of normality.

See #8. Many seem misled by their economic issues and successes, as a kind of sign of loosening of the totaliarism, as sign of normalcy. How wrong we are, at least those pushing for it.

54 posted on 09/25/2007 8:08:43 PM PDT by fortunecookie (Finally catching up with posting...)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

Yes, it seems so now. And it’s seems we’ve helped.


55 posted on 09/25/2007 8:10:01 PM PDT by fortunecookie (Finally catching up with posting...)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

I gotcha. I’ve actually seen numerous definitions of Communism, and I admit some include the word theories ;) Usually also including social effects as well. Here’s one example:

Black’s Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition, page 280

Communism: “A system of social organization in which goods are held in common, the opposite of the system of private property; communalism, any theory or system of social organization involving common ownership of agents of production of industry, the latter of which theories is referred to in the popular use of the word “communism” while the scientific usage sometimes conforms to the first alone and sometimes alternates between the first and second; also the principles and theories of the Communist Party. A system by which the state controls the means of production and the distribution and consumption of industrial products.”


56 posted on 09/25/2007 8:15:17 PM PDT by jedward (I'm not sure you meant, what I understand...or maybe you did.)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

Fredrick Engels (1847)

“Communism is the doctrine of the conditions of the liberation of the proletariat.”

That’s the word I was looking for “doctrine”. That a-hole Engels listed above would know :)


57 posted on 09/25/2007 8:18:32 PM PDT by jedward (I'm not sure you meant, what I understand...or maybe you did.)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

It cannot be called capitalism if the government has ultimate authority on who and how money can be spent and invested. It is socialism.


58 posted on 09/25/2007 9:16:21 PM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: pissant
Granted it is a little bit more complicated in the case of China where you have Gubmint run capitalism. It's not all that different than the USA. We are not an entirely Capitalist society either...see Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, SCHIP, unemployment benefits. We are probably 80% Capitalist and 20% Communist ourselves. China is closer to 50/50 at this point. In the interest of actually making a fellow Freepers time here worthwhile, let me point you to a couple of articles and books that I have read on the subject and maybe we can discuss them. There were a bunch but these are the ones I can remember off the top of my head.

How Capitalist Transformation Exposes Holes in China's Government: From the Wall Street Journal

China and Socialism: Market Reforms and Class Struggle

59 posted on 09/25/2007 9:42:15 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
If the Chinese government devalues its own currency, how can that be illegal? Under what law?

Did our government act illegally when it devalued our currency by a factor of at least 20 since 1933? Yes, actually, but it doesn't leave us in a strong position to complain.

60 posted on 09/26/2007 5:32:53 PM PDT by Christopher Lincoln
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