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HITLER .. BUT NOT THE ROTC
Neals Nuze/WSB Radio ^ | September 24, 2007 | Neal Boortz

Posted on 09/24/2007 7:29:14 AM PDT by Turret Gunner A20

Columbia University has rightfully been under fire for inviting Iran's President to speak to its student body. Now Columbia's Dean is not only defending the decision, but says that Columbia would offer a platform for Hitler to come and speak if he were alive and in America.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxmEGsOkEVc

So, there you have Dean John Coatsworth of Columbia University was on Fox News late last week telling the world that Hitler would be invited to speak at Columbia, were he available. Wonderful. But how do you square this against the decision by Columbia to un-invite the founder of the Minutemen? How do you square this with Columbia's refusal to allow the ROTC on campus? Hitler is OK, but a man who founded a group to monitor illegal activity along our borders is not? Hitler is fine, but young men training to be officers in our armed forces are not?

Meanwhile, Ahmadinejad is looking forward to providing Americans with "correct and clear information" about the world and what it thinks of America.

http://www.ocregister.com/opinion/health-million-uninsured-1850186-insurance-people

HITLER .. BUT NOT THE ROTC

Columbia University has rightfully been under fire for inviting Iran's President to speak to its student body. Now Columbia's Dean is not only defending the decision, but says that Columbia would offer a platform for Hitler to come and speak if he were alive and in America. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxmEGsOkEVc

So, there you have Dean John Coatsworth of Columbia University was on Fox News late last week telling the world that Hitler would be invited to speak at Columbia, were he available. Wonderful. But how do you square this against the decision by Columbia to un-invite the founder of the Minutemen? How do you square this with Columbia's refusal to allow the ROTC on campus? Hitler is OK, but a man who founded a group to monitor illegal activity along our borders is not? Hitler is fine, but young men training to be officers in our armed forces are not? Meanwhile, Ahmadinejad is looking forward to providing Americans with "correct and clear information" about the world and what it thinks of America.

http://www.ocregister.com/opinion/health-million-uninsured-1850186-insurance-people


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: academia; ahmadinejad; columbiau; columbiauniversity; hitler; johncoatsworth; liberals; minutemen; rotc
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Another "educator" heard from.

....vomit....

1 posted on 09/24/2007 7:29:16 AM PDT by Turret Gunner A20
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To: Turret Gunner A20
The penalty for open homosexuality in the military is a discharge. That's bad according to Columbia U.

Is the penalty for homosexuality in Iran hanging or stoning? Either way, that's OK for Columbia U.

2 posted on 09/24/2007 7:36:54 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (May the heirs of Charles Martel and Jan Sobieski rise up again to defend Europe.)
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To: Turret Gunner A20

Someone on Fox put it this way:

They keep the ROTC out because we don’t let gays in the service, but invite a man that hangs them.


3 posted on 09/24/2007 7:37:43 AM PDT by I still care ("Remember... for it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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To: Turret Gunner A20

Americans are being killed by the Iranian regime. Read your Constitution. This is Treason.


4 posted on 09/24/2007 8:05:42 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Turret Gunner A20

Follow the money folks. Follow the money. You can bet that big bucks will be slated to the University thru “front” organizations backed by Iran.


5 posted on 09/24/2007 8:10:35 AM PDT by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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The military is following the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy signed into law by Bill Clinton. (ROTC had nothing to do with the formulation of the policy.) Would Columbia disinvite the former president, or would it prefer the military disregarded our laws and civilian control? I long ago came to the conclusion that, if you are looking for the best and the brightest, Columbia is not the place. Your move, Bollinger.

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6 posted on 09/24/2007 8:14:53 AM PDT by OESY
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OK, so Columbia says they won’t allow the ROTC because of discrimination against homosexual. But in Iran they stone homesexuals, don’t they? Is that one of those ‘penetrating questions’ the head of Columbia is planning on asking today?


7 posted on 09/24/2007 8:19:28 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: Turret Gunner A20
What would one expect from our socialist education/indoctrination institution's leaders?

Hitler was a NAZI - National Socialist party. The ROTC represents the military forces of a relatively free country. Guess who's policies better match the mindset of the university leaders?

8 posted on 09/24/2007 8:23:31 AM PDT by meyer (It's the entitlements, stupid!)
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To: Turret Gunner A20

Just another example of the Left’s willingness to aid and abet fascists (Islamist or otherwise).


9 posted on 09/24/2007 8:24:08 AM PDT by BusterBear
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To: Turret Gunner A20

Hitler is safely dead. But the illegal immigrant question is a burning issue with the potential to change the minds of people who actually listen to the arguments on both sides.

This dean thinks just like the ACLU, which defends the free-speech rights of neo-Nazis, but won’t lift a finger for the speech rights of abortion protestors. Their reason is that neo-Nazis are useful symbols, unpleasant but not really a threat to anyone, so they usefully symbolize the ACLU’s dedication to freedom of speech no matter how unpleasant.

Abortion protestors, on the other hand, have real arguments, and there is a danger that they might appeal to the people they speak to and change their views. Therefore, they must be shut down, because for the ACLU the right to kill inconvenient babies trumps free speech any day of the week, and they don’t want people hearing anything different.


10 posted on 09/24/2007 8:26:32 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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I still want to see them invite former Harvard President Lawrence Summers to speak at Columbia. I mean, what the hey, he’s the same kind of left-leaner that they like. Right?


11 posted on 09/24/2007 8:29:44 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a Liberal when I married her.)
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To: Don Corleone
Follow the money folks. Follow the money. You can bet that big bucks will be slated to the University thru “front” organizations backed by Iran.

I was thinking the same thing. And isn't it strange that the Schmuckster and the Hildebeast (NY Senators for heaven's sake) are so reticent on this issue?

12 posted on 09/24/2007 8:30:02 AM PDT by BusterBear
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To: Turret Gunner A20

BUMP!


13 posted on 09/24/2007 8:33:22 AM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: Turret Gunner A20

Columbia’s President, Lee Bollinger, is the same Bollinger in the University of Michigan “affirmative action” Supreme Court cases. It was he who created and defended the race-based admissions policies.


14 posted on 09/24/2007 8:35:33 AM PDT by Teacher317
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To: Turret Gunner A20

Columbia University has utterly disgraced themselves and is completely devoid of leadership.

Not allowing the ROTC or Jim Gilchrist of the Minutemen on campus but allowing a terrorist and a dictator (involved in the 1979 hostage crisis) and an open invitation to Adolf Hitler (if he were alive) is beyond the pale of all rational comprehension.

Romans 1:22 “Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools”

I hope that present students will leave Columbia University in droves, prospective students go elsewhere at all costs, and donors will support much more worthy ministries and institutions.


15 posted on 09/24/2007 8:40:01 AM PDT by Lions Gate
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To: Publius6961
Let's look at this soberly.
Columbia is a venue for education. By definition, all undergraduates and most graduate students are not "complete"; so some slack is justified.

That, however, does not justify the sophistry of the Columbia administration.

The false premise, confirmed by years of invariable inflammatory rhetoric, is that Ahmedinajad is "reasonable", and prone to actual dialog, explanations, clarifications; President Bush and domestic groups like the Boy Scouts or the R.O.T.C. is not. Hence these latter are not allowed on campus.

Delusional does not begin to describe it.
If the subject were not so serious it would be a cause for constant laughter.

The R.O.T.C. and the boy scouts can explain, whether you agree with them or nor, why honor, duty country is important to them; Ahmedinejad, no matter what the question, never explains his position, never answers the question.

His answer to every question is how duplicitous the United States and our president are, how aggressive and how "bad".

How much intellectual horsepower or experience does it take to see that?

16 posted on 09/24/2007 8:53:51 AM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: Turret Gunner A20

If a PRIVATE organization....i.e. MoveON.org wanted to invite this whackjob....fine.....but isn’t Columbia a public university? And what “rights” do NON-CITIZENS have here anyway?????


17 posted on 09/24/2007 8:59:50 AM PDT by goodnesswins (Being Challenged Builds Character! Being Coddled Destroys Character!)
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To: goodnesswins
Actually, Columbia is a Private university -- as much as almost any school in America can still be called private.

And, I don't think ANY "First Amendment" issue is involved here, but if there was, the First Amendment is also a right of hearers -- If Maggie Thatcher were over here, and I wanted to hear her and the government wouldn't let me, my rights would still be involved, even if SHE were not a citizen.

18 posted on 09/24/2007 9:17:53 AM PDT by BohDaThone
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To: BohDaThone

Okay...but, you could hear Maggie at a PRIVATE organization’s bidding....maybe what gets me is we let whack job come here.....but President Bush could NEVER go to Iran and speak at a University......maybe we should operate on a quid pro quo basis is what I’m thinking. Thanks for informing me about Columbia’s status.....didn’t know that.


19 posted on 09/24/2007 9:28:37 AM PDT by goodnesswins (Being Challenged Builds Character! Being Coddled Destroys Character!)
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20 posted on 09/24/2007 9:31:20 AM PDT by Gritty (It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies - CS Lewis)
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