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WHERE HAVE ALL THE LURKERS GONE???
Robert Drobot | 24 September 2007 | Robert Drobot

Posted on 09/24/2007 6:00:44 AM PDT by Robert Drobot

Until about the 18th of this month, FR posted what I thought was a viable tracker about the interest a thread might attract. The 'lurker'; that ever-present internet FR surfer who rides from thread to thread opening that which peaks his/her spirit.

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Posted by Always Right
On 09/18/2007 2:43:25 PM PDT · 50 replies · 219+ views

Having removed the number of people who 'viewed' a thread eliminates the true value of a thread, and subjects it to a value shaped only by the number of replies it may or may not attract.

For a very long time I've posted a Sunday religious thread that elicits very few replies. Rather, it does have an active viewer tally.

My concern lies in FR relying upon the a lesser value in determining the 'worthiness' of a thread. If it wasn't a problem to track lurkers in the past, I would urge FR to reapply the lurker count.


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1 posted on 09/24/2007 6:00:48 AM PDT by Robert Drobot
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To: Robert Drobot
Noticed this too.
Why the change?
2 posted on 09/24/2007 6:03:45 AM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter...President '08)
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To: Robert Drobot

I agree. Why did they take it off?


3 posted on 09/24/2007 6:03:56 AM PDT by alicewonders (Duncan Hunter. Seriously.)
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To: Robert Drobot
WHERE HAVE ALL THE LURKERS GONE???

The Shadow knows...

4 posted on 09/24/2007 6:03:59 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: Robert Drobot

You have a good point.


5 posted on 09/24/2007 6:05:35 AM PDT by period end of story (If you never go too far, you won't know the boundaries.)
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To: Robert Drobot

Maybe we mocked Ron Paul too much?


6 posted on 09/24/2007 6:05:42 AM PDT by badpacifist (They say your head can be a prison Then, these are just conjugal visits.)
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To: Robert Drobot

I certainly have used the lurker tracker to gauge whether what I’ve posted was appreciated.


7 posted on 09/24/2007 6:05:51 AM PDT by dangus
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To: Robert Drobot

Maybe there aren’t as many as they used to be. The Spanish Inquisition has taken over FR lately...and no one expected it. ;)


8 posted on 09/24/2007 6:05:56 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: Robert Drobot

I agree and hadn’t noticed this change. Eyeballs matter.


9 posted on 09/24/2007 6:08:02 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Pope to politicians: "(Do) not to allow children to be considered as a form of illness.")
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To: Robert Drobot

Lurkers have been banned for even thinking about voting for Rudy.


10 posted on 09/24/2007 6:08:23 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: Admin Moderator; Jim Robinson

Ping.


11 posted on 09/24/2007 6:08:46 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Pope to politicians: "(Do) not to allow children to be considered as a form of illness.")
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To: Robert Drobot

It’s broke.


12 posted on 09/24/2007 6:09:41 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Our God-given unalienable rights are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)
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Having removed the number of people who 'viewed' a thread eliminates the true value of a thread, and subjects it to a value shaped only by the number of replies it may or may not attract.

I find that preposterous.

The "true value" of a thread is not measured by how many people reply OR by how many even see it.

Reply counts are boosted by those who point out misspellings or other errors, or who otherwise snark at something, without adding any value.

View counts are boosted by clicks on an interesting title, or a title about a subject that is interesting. Changing the title of an already-posted article and postingit again adds no value, but has another set of viewers, because people might think it's something different.

The value of a thread is the information it contains, and that cannot be measured by counting anything.

13 posted on 09/24/2007 6:10:43 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Robert Drobot
lurking, of course!
14 posted on 09/24/2007 6:12:01 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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There ya go.


15 posted on 09/24/2007 6:12:19 AM PDT by Peter W. Kessler (Dirt is for racing... asphalt is for getting there.)
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To: Izzy Dunne

Great points! If a thread was posted with the title, “Nude Pictures of Jessica Alba” and the moderators didn’t pull it, the thread would get thousands of views. However, nobody would be able to make the argument that the thread had any value in terms of conservative politics or world events.

Many threads here that deal with popular culture get a lot of posts and there is nothing wrong with that, but they still don’t have anything to do with FR’s purpose.


16 posted on 09/24/2007 6:15:38 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Izzy Dunne

I tend to agree with you. It’s the same with print media. One piece of print media in a public area can be viewed by multiple readers. How many respond is irrelevant at the time, it’s the exposure that is counted


17 posted on 09/24/2007 6:16:54 AM PDT by shadeaud
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To: Robert Drobot

I will never start a thread while there’s a view replies function to be seen. I have a very feeble self-esteem and a low count might do it serious damage. Even the My Comments page is hard to take sometimes. I don’t know which scares me more, that when I go to My Comments I might see a reply disagreeing with me, or I’ll only see my own comments which nobody was inspired to reply to. ;)
Maybe I should go back to watching Bob Newhart reruns!


18 posted on 09/24/2007 6:18:44 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Write. Phone. Fax. Demand answers. Demand questions!!)
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To: Robert Drobot

..or the usual suspects figured out how to manipulate the “views” numbers to artificially bump up a thread.

Much like one group has artificially manipulated a FR poll.


19 posted on 09/24/2007 6:19:36 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Robert Drobot
My guess is that FR is becoming irrelevant and fewer people are lurking, thus remove the indicators of such.
20 posted on 09/24/2007 6:19:52 AM PDT by Bear_Slayer (When liberty is outlawed only outlaws will have liberty.)
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