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6-Year-Old Autistic Student Criminally Charged After Alleged Assault
WCPO.com ^ | September 23, 2007 | Lance Barry

Posted on 09/23/2007 7:43:27 PM PDT by Graybeard58

A six-year-old autistic boy has been charged criminally after an incident inside his school where he allegedly assaulted a teacher's aide.

It's a story you saw first on 9News.

The incident happened earlier this month at Taylor Elementary School in Brooksville, Ky., located in Bracken County.

He is in kindergarten at Taylor Elementary, but 9News was told that due to his autism and other conditions, his mental capacity is the equivalent to a child half his age.

But despite that condition and his age, it still hasn't stopped a school employee there from holding him accountable: criminally.

Whether it's playing outside with his parents, or coloring SpongeBob Squarepants pictures, Nathan Darnell isn't much different than other kids his age.

But two things that do make him different from many other six-year-olds is his autism – and his criminal rap sheet.

"We are not denying that he did what they are saying, but we are denying he is culpable," said Tony Darnell, Nathan's father.

It was just last week when Nathan's teacher's aide, Glenda Schiltz, filed a juvenile fourth degree misdemeanor assault charge against him.

"What human being with a heart would do that to a six-year old?, asked Cathy Darnell, Nathan's mother. "Seriously, who would do that? I know I wouldn't."

According to the affidavit which 9News obtained, Schiltz alleges that on September 5, Nathan grabbed her by the shirt, pulled her backwards and began punching and kicking her.

"He admits to shoving her down, but he says he didn't pull her backwards," said Tony Darnell.

"She is no small person, she can defend herself," said Cathy Darnell.

So what does the school have to say about the matter?

Superintendent of Bracken County Schools Tony Johnson would not appear on camera but did say in a statement, "I believe we followed proper procedures and I have full faith in my staff".

Despite being autistic, Nathan is integrated with all kindergartners at Taylor Elementary.

His parents believe Schiltz and other teachers there are ill-prepared to handle special needs students.

His mother openly questions Schiltz's credentials.

"[She believes] you need to take him behind the woodshed and teach him something," Cathy Darnell, said. "That is her mentality, beat it out of him."

"Most of the time it [Nathan's behavior] is whining and screaming. I am sure that is hard on teachers and stuff, but we find a way to deal with it," said Tony Darnell.

On Wednesday the family went to the county courthouse, where an inquiry was held and it was decided the criminal case against Nathan will indeed move forward.

It's likely then that Schiltz will have to be there.

But until they get a chance to tell her personally, Nathan's family, in the meantime, does have something they want to say to her.

"She is a cold-hearted woman, that she has made every teacher look bad," said Cathy Darnell.

Repeated attempts to contact Glenda Schiltz were unsuccessful.

9News also was in communication with several school board members and none wanted to comment on the matter.

This is all heading to a proceeding scheduled for next week in which six-year-old Nathan will appear in juvenile court as a defendant.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; US: Kentucky
KEYWORDS: assault; autism; criminal; dangerous; education; glendaschiltz; publicschools; schools; specialkids; specialneeds; specialparents; teacher; teachers; theydonowrong; violent; wearespecial
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To: VxH
[down the ladder as it were.]

Ladder, or pyramid? ;-}


Actually, it used to be a rope, but with he way you have been twisting it, it is now a tangled web...
761 posted on 10/04/2007 4:53:33 PM PDT by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: DelphiUser

By, gonna go play with the kids, they are more fun and more enlightened than some here...


762 posted on 10/04/2007 4:55:01 PM PDT by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: DelphiUser


[Ah, the old peppered moth hoax is revisited. ]
 
Interesting.  20+ years ago it was taught as an example of micro-evolution  as part of the Biology curriculum in some Lutheran synodical colleges and universities.
 
It appears the controversy arose in 1998  when  Melanism: Evolution in Action, by Michael E. N. Majerus was published.  Majerus was critical of Kettlewell's methodology but agreed with  Kettlewell's conclusions none the less.
 
Your link was published by "Creation Magazine" -  probably a less than objective source on the subject.
 
A good summary of the controversy surrounding melanism, written from an evolutionist perspective is:
 
FINE TUNING THE PEPPERED MOTH PARADIGM
 
I'm still inclined to accept melanism.


VxH[[Should the cost of this benefit also be paid by all of us, or should the cost be paid only by the individuals who are unfortunate enough to be afflicted with birth defects after immunization?]]

DU[so if we require a pregnancy test before immunization, and folic acid during pregnancy these defects associated with small pox would never happen.]

 
Assume civilization has advanced because of the eradication of small pox and the benefits of this advancement are shared. 
 
A popular hypothesis is that Autism is associated with immunization.  Therefore, Autism is one of the costs of the advancement and benefits made available by immunization.
 
If we all benefit via the advancement of civilization, shouldn't we all share in the cost?

763 posted on 10/04/2007 5:30:15 PM PDT by VxH (One if by Land, Two if by Sea, and Three if by Wire Transfer)
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To: Lovebloggers
Sigh.

First, it is “typical” children, as in typically developing children, or very specifically neurotypical children. Not “normal.” My child is not abnormal, he is autistic.

sigh!

Revisionist-semantics.

Each time a word becomes offensive with its accuracy, the offended group picks another name to draw a line in the sand.

You lost me there.

764 posted on 10/04/2007 5:31:34 PM PDT by bannie
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To: bannie

You certainly are lost.


765 posted on 10/04/2007 6:59:04 PM PDT by Lovebloggers
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To: DelphiUser
[there is not enough room in the human brain to store all the information that our minds store.]
 
[the consciousness that you think resides entirely within neurons cannot fit]
 
"Complexity:
    The human brain contains about 50 billion to 200 billion neurons (nobody knows how many for sure), each of which interfaces with 1,000 to 100,000 other neurons through 100 trillion (1014) to 10 quadrillion (1016) synaptic junctions. Each synapse possesses a variable firing threshold which is reduced as the neuron is repeatedly activated. If we assume that the firing threshold at each synapse can assume 256 distinguishable levels, and if we suppose that there are 20,000 shared synapses per neuron (10,000 per neuron), then the total information storage capacity of the synapses in the cortex would be of the order of 500 to 1,000 terabytes. (Of course, if the brain's storage of information takes place at a molecular level, then I would be afraid to hazard a guess regarding how many bytes can be stored in the brain. One estimate has placed it at about 3.6 X 1019 bytes.) "
 
I'd like to see a documented source for the numbers cited  (especially regarding synaptic resolution, as 256 seems low)  but the math is correct and this quote provides a good point of reference for the purposes of our discussion here.
 
The basis of consciousness is sensory input.   You think you've got more than 1000 terabytes worth of information in your head?  For reference, the entire printed text of the library of congress is currently estimated at less than 20 terabytes.
 
Don't get me wrong, I think the God did an amazing job when He designed our brains.   But those brains exist entirely within the physical universe that He created - as do the thoughts whereby I am pondering Him and His creation, here and now.

766 posted on 10/04/2007 7:11:33 PM PDT by VxH (One if by Land, Two if by Sea, and Three if by Wire Transfer)
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To: bannie
[Each time a word becomes offensive with its accuracy, the offended group picks another name to draw a line in the sand.]
 
Yep.  Reminds me of 1984 Newspeak. 
 
Dictionary control = Thought control.
 
 


767 posted on 10/04/2007 7:37:31 PM PDT by VxH (One if by Land, Two if by Sea, and Three if by Wire Transfer)
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To: Lovebloggers
Aw.

You need to think I'm lost.

I hope it makes you feel compensated or vindicated.

768 posted on 10/04/2007 7:41:38 PM PDT by bannie
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To: bannie

Oh my, did I strike a nerve?


769 posted on 10/04/2007 8:11:18 PM PDT by Lovebloggers
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To: Graybeard58

Agreed 100%


770 posted on 10/04/2007 8:16:22 PM PDT by Blogger (Propheteuon.com)
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To: VxH
I'd like to see a documented source for the numbers cited (especially regarding synaptic resolution, as 256 seems low) but the math is correct and this quote provides a good point of reference for the purposes of our discussion here.

Does it? Let's see, I did not cite numbers, but quoted a neural psychologist I was talking to for a study I was participating in. I stated earlier that I was not responsible for what you believe, you may feel free to be;lieve that all of your thoughts are stored in your physical brain, and that all that exists is this physical world, I believe otherwise, but am not trying to "preach" to you.

The basis of consciousness is sensory input. You think you've got more than 1000 terabytes worth of information in your head? For reference, the entire printed text of the library of congress is currently estimated at less than 20 terabytes.

That's funny, I work with database's bigger than 20 Tb.

So exactly how much "Storage" does it take to remember love? Hate, feeling Cold... if life's experiences could be reduced to a set of printed words, then the storage in the Brain would indeed be adequate, it's not.

Don't get me wrong, I think the God did an amazing job when He designed our brains. But those brains exist entirely within the physical universe that He created - as do the thoughts whereby I am pondering Him and His creation, here and now.

Agree about God and his design, the rest...
771 posted on 10/05/2007 7:25:47 AM PDT by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: DelphiUser
[So exactly how much "Storage" does it take to remember love? Hate, feeling Cold... ]
 
The basis of consciousness is sensory data.  The state of your senses is stored and recalled.
 
You might note that experiences involving strong emotional response are often recalled more vividly.  This is because the response of the endocrine system causes a stronger imprinting of the experience on the neural network.
 

[That's funny, I work with database's bigger than 20 Tb.]
 
Regardless of your amusement, 20 tb is the estimated  storage required if the printed text in the Library of Congress were digitized.   That does not include non-text media such as audio, video, and imagery - including this data would bring the estimate up to somewhere around 3000 Tb or 3 petabytes.
 
772 posted on 10/05/2007 8:01:53 AM PDT by VxH (One if by Land, Two if by Sea, and Three if by Wire Transfer)
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To: DelphiUser

[way you have been twisting it, it is now a tangled web...]

I’ve been twisting it?

LOL. How’s Jimmy “Ponzi Scheme” Lewis enjoying being a guest of the Federal Prison system? Not a very clean house you guys are running over there in Deseret.


773 posted on 10/05/2007 1:02:45 PM PDT by VxH (One if by Land, Two if by Sea, and Three if by Wire Transfer)
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To: Lovebloggers
You can spin it any way you like. Your complaints are telling in themselves.

I’ve been handed a wonderful life, and that seems to make you very angry--but your silly spinning attempts can’t take away the facts.

How sad for you.

774 posted on 10/05/2007 5:22:09 PM PDT by bannie
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To: bannie

Wow, are you high?

I have been handed a pretty wonderful life myself. How very odd and bizarre of you to suggest differently and to think I care or even gave a passing thought as to what your life is like. I think you have some serious issues, and your posting in this thread is clearly demonstrative of that.

Let’s take a peek at the post you made that I reponded to shall we?

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“”My sisters regularly have mainstreamed special-needs children in their classes. I believe that many—if not most—elementary teachers do. They are not special education teachers: Their missions are to teach traditional courses to students who are within the “normal” ranges.
In a classroom, one special child can disrupt the class for the entire group of children. This isn’t fair to the other students: It takes away from the learning of their traditional lessons.

If this were a rare, occasional event, it might be a good lesson for the “normal” kids; but—on a daily basis—it robs them of too much educational time.””

______

Here you are speaking of things you know absolutely nothing about, and for what reason exactly?

You crave attention or do you just enjoy speaking from ignorance?


775 posted on 10/05/2007 7:38:50 PM PDT by Lovebloggers
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To: Lovebloggers

How interesting that you suggest that teachers “know nothing about it.”

I never said that a mother “knows nothing about it.”


776 posted on 10/06/2007 6:37:30 AM PDT by bannie
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To: bannie

Your sisters being teachers correct? Have your sister log on and I will discuss this with her.


777 posted on 10/06/2007 6:50:04 AM PDT by Lovebloggers
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To: Lovebloggers

I logged in.


778 posted on 10/06/2007 6:51:14 AM PDT by bannie
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To: bannie

“My sisters regularly have mainstreamed special-needs children in their classes. I believe that many—if not most—elementary teachers do.”

So it is you now that is a teacher? Your experience with autistic children is what exactly?


779 posted on 10/06/2007 7:17:19 AM PDT by Lovebloggers
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To: bannie
“There are places for people who have these conditions.”

True.....under the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act (IDEA)these places are the public schools.

Actually my local school system does an excellent job with these situations, but most do not. The task of properly dealing with this massive bureaucracy and its ever growing demands is awesome and many school systems are just not up to the task and never will be.

There is a whole process dictated in instances such as this wherein it must be determined if the offense is or is not related to the student's exceptionality and that will determine the outcome.

780 posted on 10/06/2007 7:37:15 AM PDT by cerberus
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