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To: Colofornian
So one can safely assume you're not Catholic, nor Protestant or you would one, agree all Protestant churches are apostate or two,be highly upset at the Pope's edict that all Protestants churches are apostate = right?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/pope/story/0,,2123195,00.html

Or do you just have a hate on for the Mormons?

(Purely rhetorical question as I wouldn't presume or care to enlighten you on anything.)

81 posted on 09/23/2007 11:23:15 AM PDT by maine-iac7 (",,,but you can't fool all of the people all of the time." LINCOLN)
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To: maine-iac7
So one can safely assume you're not Catholic, nor Protestant or you would one, agree all Protestant churches are apostate or two,be highly upset at the Pope's edict that all Protestants churches are apostate = right? http://www.guardian.co.uk/pope/story/0,,2123195,00.html

OK, when you try to use other articles as proof-texts for your claims, make sure you read them carefully.

(1) You've now thrice made claims that the Pope has accused all Protestants of total heresy and apostasy, which believe me, would be banner headlines if such were the case. (Maybe you'd be a good headline writer for some tabloid publication, given your sensationalistic streak).

(2) Maybe you should read the articles you cite a little closer. Maybe you jumped over this small sentence (allow me to highlight the key portion):

"The view that Protestants cannot have churches was first set out by Pope Benedict seven years ago when, as Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, he headed the Vatican "ministry" for doctrine."

So, you're trying to tell us that a certain Catholic cardinal [aren't cardinal-level authorities the ones who are making sexual-abuse-by-priest-payments in some dioceses?], 7 years ago (after how many Popes in the past 500 years have been around?), finally arrives at a certain doctrine that the Protestants lack the same authority that Catholic churches have.

Yeah, yeah, I know...you're used to thinking that truth can become falsehood, or vice-versa, at the whim of a pope or an LDS prophet...you think that Magico Presto, an edict from "on high" (lower than heaven that is), can turn an orthodox person into a heretic. Or you think that a "spiritually A-OK" (temple recommend & all) polygamist is fine at Midnight on a certain date in the 1890s; and "magico presto" a few hrs later the same-said person is both a criminal and apostate.

Or you believe that a black LDS "priesthood" member is a contradictory statement at midnight on some date in 1978; but, to hear you tell it, a "Magico presto" moment occurs. Based upon some edict from "on high"(lower than heaven that is)--a few hours later--the same-said person is both celestial kingdom bound while also being conveniently budgeted for within the BYU athletic department scholarship fund, eh?

Try reading your Bible. No one prophet, minus Jesus Christ, in the Bible ever held all authority. Even Moses was instructed by his father-in-law to delegate what authority he had, lest he wear himself out. Many OT prophets were contemporaries of each other--alive at the same time; there was no hierarchical "prophet #1," "prophet #2," etc. If you're going to try to use the Bible for a hierarchy then look @ 1 Cor. 12:28: "And in the church God has appointed FIRST of all..." (What? YOU think "First of all 'prophets'?) Or since you seem to want the Pope to speak truth for you in this thread, maybe you think 1 Cor. 12:28 reads "And in the church God has appointed first of all Popes...?

Wrong-o, boy-o, oh, Magico-Presto one. 1 Cor. 12:28 reads: "And in the church God has appointed FIRST of all apostles, second prophets..."

124 posted on 09/23/2007 3:43:57 PM PDT by Colofornian
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