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Fla. Dems to keep Jan. 29 primary [even if it means losing all its nominating convention delegates]
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Posted on 09/22/2007 4:48:29 PM PDT by Sub-Driver

Fla. Dems to keep Jan. 29 primary

By BRENDAN FARRINGTON, Associated Press Writer 13 minutes ago

The Florida Democratic Party will stick with a Jan. 29 presidential primary even if it means losing all its nominating convention delegates, a party source said Saturday.

The Democratic National Committee gave the state party until Sept. 29 to come up with an alternative delegate selection plan to stay within party rules, such as caucuses or a vote-by-mail primary, but party leadership has rejected that idea.

State party Chairman Karen Thurman, members of the congressional delegation and state legislative leaders were scheduling a news conference Sunday to announce their position. State party staff has been polling executive committee members and determined at least 75 percent support for the early primary, the source said. The source spoke on condition of anonymity because executive committee members were still be notified.

The DNC Rules Committee voted last month to strip Florida of its 210 delegates if the state party held a primary before Feb. 5. Major Democratic presidential candidates have signed a pledge to restrict campaigning in Florida if it violates party rules.

Democratic Party rules say states cannot hold their 2008 primary contests before Feb. 5, except for Iowa on Jan. 14, Nevada on Jan. 19, New Hampshire on Jan. 22 and South Carolina on Jan. 29. Michigan has scheduled a Jan. 15 primary.

Florida's Republican Legislature voted last spring to set the Jan. 29 primary date, and Republican Gov. Charlie Crist signed it into law. In June, the state Democratic Party voted to go along with the date, saying it was the best chance to get as many people involved in the process as possible. It reaffirmed the vote in August.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: 2008dncconvention; democratparty; election; electionpresident; elections; floridadems; primary
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utter nonsense........
1 posted on 09/22/2007 4:48:35 PM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

Gee, maybe the Dems aren’t as united as the MSM would have us believe.


2 posted on 09/22/2007 4:49:57 PM PDT by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG-49) Freedom's Fortress)
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To: Sub-Driver

Gee I guess this means the Dem candidates will stay away from Florida. /s


3 posted on 09/22/2007 4:50:10 PM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: Sub-Driver

this is brilliant. the DNC is going to disgruntle 25 electoral votes going into the general.


4 posted on 09/22/2007 4:53:11 PM PDT by smonk
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To: Sub-Driver

No, the FL libs know that getting HRC nominated will be a matter of fact long, long before the convention. Convention delegates will be meaningless. I think FL will go for HRC, as it did for her “husband” in 1996.


5 posted on 09/22/2007 4:53:24 PM PDT by Theodore R. ( Cowardice is still forever!)
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To: Sub-Driver

I live in FL, and I was polled on this on the phone two days ago.


6 posted on 09/22/2007 4:56:45 PM PDT by I still care ("Remember... for it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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To: mainepatsfan

My dream scenario is that the Florida Party divorces themselves from the DNC and goes independent, sort of like the Episcopalian congregations that wouldn’t go along with “gay marriage.”


7 posted on 09/22/2007 4:57:58 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: Sub-Driver
Knowing the democrat party, it's part of an overall plan to discredit the electoral process in favor of a popular vote.
8 posted on 09/22/2007 4:59:06 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Sub-Driver

I hope it becomes nasty...real nasty.


9 posted on 09/22/2007 5:08:59 PM PDT by abercrombie_guy_38
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Question is...will this ensure the state our way in november?


10 posted on 09/22/2007 5:12:14 PM PDT by Rick_Michael (The Anti-Federalists failed....so will the Anti-Frederalists)
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To: Sub-Driver

Fantastic. The Dems ought to have the distinction of disenfranchising the State of Florida every year.

I wonder if they are going to give the same treatment to Michigan.


11 posted on 09/22/2007 5:17:54 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Sub-Driver

There is a lot of bad news right now for Dems, with this in Florida (and potentially Michigan), the proposed ballot initiative in California which will probably pass that would split California EC votes, and the extremly low popularity of the Democrats in Congress as they have alienated both patriotic Americans AND war opponents by being political yet ineffective sellouts.

It really could be a perfect storm in 2008 for a Republican sweep back into full power.


12 posted on 09/22/2007 5:42:03 PM PDT by Dragonspirit (We fight it out as good friends now, but in 2008 we UNITE against our enemy!)
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To: Sub-Driver
Democratic Party rules say states cannot hold their 2008 primary contests before Feb. 5, except for Iowa on Jan. 14, Nevada on Jan. 19, New Hampshire on Jan. 22 and South Carolina on Jan. 29.

Iowa, Nevada, New Hampshire and South Carolina...WHAT MAKES THEM SO SPECIAL?

I hope that being disenfranchised by the DNC will make a lot of FL Dems mad enough to stay home on Election Day '08. What are the chances?
13 posted on 09/22/2007 5:57:16 PM PDT by no dems (Don't hate me and call me names because you can't reply to my posts intelligently.)
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To: neodad

oooooorrrr the DNC knows FL is a lost cause so they are fashioning a Florida Free strategy in the general election.


14 posted on 09/22/2007 6:06:48 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Sub-Driver
IMO,one could reasonably assume that the "typical" RAT delegate from FL would be at least a bit more conservative than is the "typical" delegate nationwide.If that's true the rejection of FL's delegates would make for a more radical leftist nominee than would otherwise have been chosen.

This could well bode well for us.

15 posted on 09/22/2007 6:21:36 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (If martyrdom is so cool,why does Osama Obama go to such great lengths to avoid it?)
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To: Sub-Driver
This is simply Howie Dean working to help the third party candidates. Remember, after all he WAS/IS the third party.

Or, IBTRYMB post?

16 posted on 09/22/2007 6:37:06 PM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (I buy gas for my SUV with the Carbon Offsets I sell on Ebay!)
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To: Dragonspirit

If Michigan doesn’t tilt red in ‘08, it never will.

The dems have promised to boycott us — HUZZAH!!! — and the GOP is on Mackinac Island this weekend. ALL of the big guns are there — Romney, Gingrich, Giuliani, Thompson, Hunter — giving our state all they’ve got AND blasting our idiot governor Jenny and the Dems for wanting to hike our income taxes 18%, add a 2% service tax AND a 1% sales tax.

Oh, did I mention the state government will probably shut down Oct. 1st? Not that it’s a bad thing.


17 posted on 09/22/2007 6:42:59 PM PDT by Kieri (Midwest Snark Claw & Feather Club Founder)
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To: Dragonspirit

“It really could be a perfect storm in 2008 for a Republican sweep back into full power.”

Let’s hope!:)


18 posted on 09/22/2007 6:49:49 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: Dragonspirit

“There is a lot of bad news right now for Dems, with this in Florida (and potentially Michigan), the proposed ballot initiative in California which will probably pass that would split California EC votes, and the extremly low popularity of the Democrats in Congress as they have alienated both patriotic Americans AND war opponents by being political yet ineffective sellouts.”

California is going to pass. RATS will sue in court and will win. They will win in the 9th circuit and it will be overturned in the SCOTUS. The RATS will try to hold that off until after 2008 and lacking that will blame the Republican party for it.

IMHO, I think our electoral vote system should be based on county. You win your county, you get a vote. Every county in the US gets 1 vote.


19 posted on 09/22/2007 9:14:38 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (When O'Reilly comes out from under his desk, tell him to give me a call. Hunter/Thompson in 08.)
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To: Sub-Driver
I don't think FL rats care about losing their delegates because they know Hitlery's going to run the table anyway.

However, it does seem to indicate to me that the national DNC is forsaking FL in the general election, which in turn tells me their focus is entirely on some combination of OH, MO, NM, and NV. Possibly Kerry's poor showing in 2004 combined with Crist's high favorability ratings have led them to the conclusion that they shouldn't expend their resources in FL.

20 posted on 09/22/2007 9:47:09 PM PDT by rhinohunter
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