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Rudy tells NRA that 9/11 altered his gun views
Newsday.com ^ | September 21, 2007 | CRAIG GORDON

Posted on 09/21/2007 2:36:52 PM PDT by neverdem

Rudy Giuliani told the National Rifle Association Friday that his own views on gun control have evolved in part due to the Sept. 11 attacks, which he said highlighted the importance of the Second Amendment right of allowing law-abiding citizens to carry guns.

Facing a group that he once likened to "extremists," Giuliani sought to temper his past strong support for national gun control laws by saying he could no longer support a lawsuit he filed as New York mayor in 2000, which was designed to hold gun-makers liable for gun violence.

Giuliani said "there have been subsequent intervening events -- Sept. 11 -- which casts somewhat of a different light on the Second Amendment and Second Amendment rights. It doesn't change the fundamental rights, but maybe it highlights the necessity for them more."

Giuliani has built his presidential campaign on convincing Republicans that his performance after the Sept. 11 attacks shows he is the strong leader America needs -- but it was the first time he had linked his personal views on gun control to the terror attacks.

The lawsuit -- which ironically was being debated in a New York appeals court Friday as well -- was one of the sharpest points of disagreement between Giuliani and the gun–rights lobby, which he criticized as President Bill Clinton's leading Republican ally in pushing for a national assault weapons ban.

Giuliani rival John McCain also criticized the former mayor's tactics Friday, calling it a "particularly devious effort to use lawsuits to bankrupt our great manufacturers. A number of big-city mayors decided it was more important to blame the manufacturers of a legal product than it was to control crime in their own cities."

Former Tennessee Sen. Fred Thompson also addressed the meeting of about 400 NRA members, winning by far the...

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To: nctexan
"What does anyone one care of history if the candidate is now singing the right words and hitching their cart to the right horses."

Gee, it couldn't have anything to do with politicians who will do or say anything to get the vote of the gullible and then revert once elected to what their history showed they always were. Couldn't be that we have a whole gob of elected Republicans who all run like Rudy (tell them anything to get their vote) as conservatives, and then govern like what they really are, wannabe Democrats. Nah, couldn't be that.

P.S. If you vote the way you talk, you're a fool with a handgun who won't have it for long.

181 posted on 09/22/2007 7:56:11 AM PDT by penowa
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To: M203M4
I'm sick of this BS. Pretty soon we will be hearing how 9/11 changed his views on abortion too (and gay marriage).

Does this mean that Rudy no longer considers the NRA to be a group of "EXTREMISTS"???

182 posted on 09/22/2007 8:18:10 AM PDT by stockstrader (We need a conservative who will ENERGIZE the Party, not a liberal who will DEMORALIZE it!)
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To: nctexan

Like I said, if you vote like you talk - a fool and his gun will soon be parted, and you’ll have nobody to blame but yourself for being a dupe. People like you are the reason the Republican party is in the trouble it’s in since you’re apparently willing to vote for anybody with an “R” after his name as long as he tells you the lies you want to hear. And I would not be surprised to learn that you’re one of the biggest bellyachers when the pols you believed turn on you once you elect them.


184 posted on 09/22/2007 9:11:30 AM PDT by penowa
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To: nctexan

I should have looked at your page before commenting. There it is in BIG letters - # 10 on your list, at the very bottom. Your candidate needs to be in favor of REASONABLE GUN CONTROL. No mention of the Constitution or BOR’s in the other 9 items. I guess you won’t mind when a REASONABLE GUN CONTROLLER on either side of the aisle sees fit to declare you a criminal unless you turn in your handgun. Maybe he/she will let you keep your B-B or paint gun.


185 posted on 09/22/2007 9:24:42 AM PDT by penowa
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To: penowa

penowa,

Like I “should” have said...

... and the horse you rode in on.


186 posted on 09/22/2007 9:24:52 AM PDT by nctexan
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To: nctexan

Anything else, CINO?


187 posted on 09/22/2007 9:28:49 AM PDT by penowa
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To: penowa

Nope... Carnac.


188 posted on 09/22/2007 9:33:15 AM PDT by nctexan
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To: CRBDeuce

Huh? I’m thinking you must’ve intended your comment for someone else. It makes no sense in the context of anything I said.


189 posted on 09/22/2007 10:01:04 AM PDT by lonevoice (It's always "Apologize to a Muslim Hour"...somewhere)
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To: neverdem
I believe him.

Any/all of us could and have these types of revelations. He represented his sincerely and humbly.

190 posted on 09/22/2007 10:33:14 AM PDT by Mariner
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To: pleikumud

gun sales are up
gun show attendance is up
gun stocks (RGR and SWHC) are up
Ammo prices are up

what part of that picture would give you pause? and yes it should give terrorists and criminals pause, but they tend not to read much!


191 posted on 09/22/2007 11:45:34 AM PDT by CRBDeuce (an armed society is a polite society)
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To: neverdem

Strange it has taken him all this time since 9/11 to tell us about his change of heart, oh, I mean since Fred went to the gun show in Florida and spoke the the NRA about his support for all of us, don’t think Rudie will be getting much support as a result of his, “better late than never” announcement.


192 posted on 09/22/2007 11:56:05 AM PDT by lolhelp
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To: Shooter 2.5

He got a standing ovation, don’t you watch FNC?


193 posted on 09/22/2007 11:56:51 AM PDT by omega4179 (Its time to rally around Fred.)
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To: omega4179

Do you have a link to a video that shows a standing ovation or were they getting up to leave?


194 posted on 09/22/2007 12:13:30 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Hunter '08)
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To: lonevoice
"But, he's really going to have to 'splain to me just how an armed citizenry would've kept the Islamo-psychotics from slamming airplanes into the WTC."

Why did they respond by putting armed Federal Marshals on aircraft?
195 posted on 09/22/2007 1:40:14 PM PDT by loboinok (Gun control is hitting what you aim at!)
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To: the right reverend

He changed his mind on abortion after seeing his two children born so what is the difference between the two. Hunter or Romney needed for President ASAP!!!


196 posted on 09/22/2007 1:43:55 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: nctexan
What does anyone one care of history if the candidate is now singing the right words and hitching their cart to the right horses.

Thinking such as that, is what led to Reagan's nomination of two Supreme Court Justices that he later declared were, "two of the biggest mistakes of my administration."
197 posted on 09/22/2007 1:58:25 PM PDT by loboinok (Gun control is hitting what you aim at!)
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To: loboinok
"Thinking such as that, is what led to Reagan's nomination of two Supreme Court Justices that he later declared were, "two of the biggest mistakes of my administration."

There's a vast difference between a supreme court justice and a president that must be tied to a power structure. One is appointed for life. The other depends on their base. There's also a lot of difference in the things that a president will directly affect vs. the court. I would never support anyone who had a weak history on national defense or budget. 2nd amendment and abortion rights are much less likely to be directly affected by a president than the courts.

The most important things to me after national defense is the belief in appointing judges that don't rewrite the constitution.

Just my opinion. You're entitled to yours. BTW, thanks for your respectful disagreement vs. that of others.

198 posted on 09/22/2007 4:46:26 PM PDT by nctexan
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To: neverdem
Rudy is a ******* liar.

L

199 posted on 09/22/2007 4:52:25 PM PDT by Lurker ( Comparing moderate islam to extremist islam is like comparing smallpox to ebola.)
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To: neverdem

Rudy is a liar. Go back to his first national interview after declaring his candidacy. He mentions NOTHING about 9/11 as it relates to gun control. His entire attitude at the time was the measures that “worked” in NYC were needed in NYC. He’s a lying puss sack.


200 posted on 09/22/2007 5:23:00 PM PDT by Rb ver. 2.0 (Reunite Gondwanaland!)
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