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To: WOSG
>>>>>>Conclusion: Every single politician has evolving positions on this. Mitt Romney is not unique at all.

BS!

I'm getting tired of you Romneyites lying about Reagan to lift up Mitt Boy's faltering campaign. This is all about Romney calling Reagan "adamantly pro-choice" --- a bold face lie --- as a way of diverting attention away from his own piss poor record on abortion. BTW, This isn't about Reagan, GHW Bush, John McCain, GW BUsh Sam Brownback or anyone else for that matter. This is all about Mitt Boy and his shifts on the abortion issue just before his run for president.

>>>>>Romney was in office for only 4 years, he doesn’t have a 30 year record on anything.

Don't give me that crapola. Mitt Romney has made public statements about being pro-abortion from the early 1970`s through 2005, when he suddenly had an epiphany and became a pro-lifer.

>>>>>>Yet we give Reagan a pass for this ... and for not really moving the ball on abortion much, because he was a pro-life leader.

Wrong! There was no need to give a pass to Reagan and for good reason. The 1967 Therapeutic Abortion Act that Reagan signed into law did not grant abortions on demand. It wasn't a liberal abortion legislation. It was specific to the exceptions of substantial risk that would gravely impair the physical or mental health of the woman, along with rape and incest. It was advertised as a compassionate law that would be used to deal with the difficult abortion cases.

Most conservatives do see Reagan's accomplishments on the abortion issue to be significant. I posted the following list to you before. I suggest you read it this time.

Reagan's record on abortion:

*Reagan supported legislation that would allow for a challenge of Roe vs. Wade, while promoting a Human Life amendment to the US Constitution.

*Reagan adopted the "Mexico City Policy" halting federal aid to private groups promoting abortions abroad.

*The Reagan admin cut off funding to the United Nations Fund for Population Activities because the global agency violated U.S. law by participating in China's mandatory abortion program.

*The Reagan admin adopted regulations prohibiting federally funded "family planning clinics" from promoting abortion as birth control.

*Reagan himself introduced the issue of fetal pain into the public debate over abortion.

*The Reagan White House blocked use of federal money for research using the tissue of aborted babies. A forerunner to banning partial birth abortion.

*The Reagan admin helped win approval of the "Danforth Amendment," which said federally funded educational institutions could not be guilty of "sex discrimination" for refusing to pay for abortions.

*The Reagan admin was key in enactment of laws protecting the right to life of handicapped newborns.

*Reagan designated a National Sanctity of Human Life Day, to recognize the value of life at all stages.

*Reagan was the first Prez to address the annual WashDC March for Life. An annual event Reagan always spoke at.

*Reagan was America's first pro-life President, post Roe v Wade. His essay, "Abortion and the Conscience of a Nation" spelled out Reagan's strong pro-life position.

73 posted on 09/22/2007 10:11:39 PM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: Reagan Man

Ole to a Weasle!

A penny for a spool of thread,
A penny for a needle.
That’s the way the money goes,
Pop! goes the weasel.

Round and round the mulberry bush
The monkey chased the weasel.
The monkey stopped to pull up his socks
And Pop goes the weasel.

Three wise men of Gotham
Went to sea in a bowl;
If the bowl had been stronger
My song had been longer.

Ladies and gentlemen come to supper—
Hot boiled beans and very good butter.

I had a little husband no bigger than my thumb,
I put him in a pint pot, and there I bid him drum,
I bought a little handkerchief to wipe his little nose,
And a pair of little garters to tie his little hose.

There were once two cats of Kilkenny.
Each thought there was one cat too many;
So they fought and they fit,
And they scratched and they bit,
Till, excepting their nails,
And the tips of their tails,
Instead of two cats, there weren’t any.


81 posted on 09/22/2007 11:38:13 PM PDT by restornu (No one is perfect but you can always strive to do the right thing! Press Forward Mitt!)
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To: Reagan Man

“Mitt Romney is not unique at all.” “BS!”

Not BS, Truth. I gave multiple examples, not Reagan, others.
Like GHW Bush. This is about the double-standard people apply to Romney. Add Sam Brownback and Fred Thompson to the list of evolvers based on early comments. But no, only Romney’s 1994 statements count as a ‘lifelong prochioce’ view, the pro-choice statements of others should be ignored.... hmmmm.


83 posted on 09/23/2007 12:25:05 AM PDT by WOSG (I just wish freepers would bash Democrats as much as they bash Republicans)
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To: Reagan Man

“This isn’t about Reagan, GHW Bush, John McCain, GW BUsh Sam Brownback or anyone else for that matter. This is all about Mitt Boy and his shifts on the abortion issue just before his run for president.”

That’s right. This is not about the fact that Reagan, GHWBush, G W Bush, had evolution of positions
... and the fact that McCain, Thompson, Brownback, and Rudy all have past statements, actions and positions about abortion that they would like to put aside as they run for President...

this is about the fact that Romney - if you exclude every other Republican candidate who’s shifted in this topic - is “unique”!

Reagan man, take the blinders off. All these things you accuse Romney of, these others have done it as well.


85 posted on 09/23/2007 12:37:22 AM PDT by WOSG (I just wish freepers would bash Democrats as much as they bash Republicans)
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To: Reagan Man

You’re not tired of anything. You just like to piss and moan and make your infinite infantile arguments. Must wear you out to split those hairs all day long.

Just like the one above where you said this was about Romney and then proceeded to list 12 points about Reagan.

Why don’t you quit lying? Or what, you don’t like your own tactics used against you? . What, when you’ve expended all of your credibility? *rolls eyes*

And the thing is, I bet you have a hard time telling when I’m being serious and when I’m just immitating you.

No, the point in all of this is that Romney’s record is 100% Pro-Life. No matter how much you blow your smoke, that’s the reality of it.


89 posted on 09/23/2007 4:06:08 AM PDT by CheyennePress (Romney: Big on policy. Small on platitudes. Refreshing, isn't it?)
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