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“Plain-Speaking” About McCain-Feingold-Thompson
Townhall.com ^ | 9/21/07 | James Bopp Jr.

Posted on 09/21/2007 11:33:22 AM PDT by pissant

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To: George W. Bush

Um...he wasn’t President?


21 posted on 09/21/2007 12:34:02 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (The color blue tastes like the square root of 0?)
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To: RockinRight
Been discussed...try a new song, Pissant.

If Fredhead ad hominem attacks on the the writer and poster of an article count as discussion, then you are right, it has been discussed.

Further discussion at Race42008

Thompson’s CFR History

Renowned Pro-life attorney James Bopp Jr. takes issue with Fred’s relationhip to CFR. He a very revealing post, we see some grave problems in Fred and his lack of candor on CFR...

Thompson needs to come out and be honest about his intentions here. We have a guy who claims not to remember that he was pro-choice despite debate proclamations in 1994, and a guy who tip toes around his founding role in CFR. Let’s hear him take ownership of the pet project that was his. I mean, a guy who pushes for a law that the Roberts Court finds unconstitutional and infringing on freedom of speech needs to be honest and up front with the American people. If he is, then perhaps forgiveness could be in order.

22 posted on 09/21/2007 12:34:40 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: Plutarch

We did discuss that here on FR, several months ago. Perhaps you were too busy on a Mitt/Hunter/Paul thread to know.


23 posted on 09/21/2007 12:36:09 PM PDT by RockinRight (Can we start calling Fred "44" now, please?)
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To: Grunthor

None, and we certainly COULD considering this bribery scandal he’s been named in.

(I don’t think Hunter did anything BTW...)


24 posted on 09/21/2007 12:37:12 PM PDT by RockinRight (Can we start calling Fred "44" now, please?)
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To: pissant
Maybe if Hunter would offer FREE LAND, you know, the land he, uh, appropriated from California...the Channel Island deal, to give to his bud’s for golfing, and hob knobbing, maybe then he might get into the double digits.

Ya’ think?

25 posted on 09/21/2007 12:37:48 PM PDT by papasmurf (I'm for Free, Fair, and Open trade. America needs to stand by it's true Friend. Israel.)
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To: RockinRight
We did discuss that here on FR, several months ago.

Fred wasn't a candidate several months ago, so hardly a need to discuss it then. He hadn't had his meandering interview with Laura Ingraham several months ago, and this piece that clarifies matters was published today.

"Old news..." wasn't that the Clinton mantra?

26 posted on 09/21/2007 12:40:55 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: RockinRight

“None, and we certainly COULD....”

but we WOULD’NT because if Hunter had a chance at all, or numbers compararble to Freds right now, most of “us” would be supporting Hunter. I know I would. Unfortunately for Duncan it comes down to keeping Trudy from the nomination.

I plan to vote for the man most likely to be able to do that. His name is not Duncan Hunter.


27 posted on 09/21/2007 12:42:35 PM PDT by Grunthor (So is Ron Paul to the mentally deranged what Aquaman is to fish or something?)
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To: Clara Lou; jdm; ejonesie22; dirtboy; Politicalmom; SE Mom; jellybean

Romney: Ban PACs, Tax Campaign Contributions
A history of support for Campaign Finance Reform

McLean, VA - Until he started running for President, Mitt Romney had a long history of supporting campaign finance reform and restrictions even more stringent than McCain-Feingold legislation.

FACT: Romney SUPPORTED banning Political Action Committees

Romney SUPPORTED a ten percent tax on campaign contributions

Romney SUPPORTED capping campaign spending on congressional elections

Supported Banning PACs
“These kinds of associations between money and politics in my view are wrong. And for that reason, I would like to have campaign spending limits...I also would abolish PACS...I don’t like the influence of money, whether it’s business, labor or any other group, I do not like that kind of influence.” (Mitt Romney for Senate Press Conference Video 1994, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MM0x8WnI4to)

Supported Taxing Campaign Contributions
“Massachusetts Romney called for spending limits on candidates and a 10 percent tax on campaign contributions for state elections to finance publicly funded campaigns.”(Editorial, “Campaign Finance Flip,” Washington Post, 5/26/07).

Supported Capping Spending on Congressional Elections
“Romney also said he advocates spending limits on congressional elections, even suggesting that the current race against Sen. Edward M. Kennedy should have a $6 million spending cap...”
(Frank Phillips, “Romney, Vowing To Live It, Touts Congress Reform Plan,” The Boston Globe, 7/7/94)

When McCain Campaigned For Romney In 2002, Romney Praised McCain For Standing For “Reform And Change” Saying “Those Are My Values.”
“Romney also praised McCain for his general reform campaign when the Arizona senator came to Massachusetts to stump with Romney just before Romney’s 2002 election victory in the governor’s race. ‘He has always stood for reform and change. And he’s always fought the good battle, no matter what the odds,’ Romney said at the time. ‘Those are my values.’” (Eric Moskowitz, “Romney, McCain Spar On Campaign Finance,” Concord Monitor, 4/27/07)

In fact, Romney’s proposals were even more stringent than what was included in McCain’s legislation.
“Back then [since his days as a Senate and gubernatorial candidate in Massachusetts], Romney advocated more stringent measures than McCain-Feingold ultimately included, such as a spending limit for federal elections and a tax on political contributions.” (Eric Moskowitz, “Romney, McCain Spar On Campaign Finance,” Concord Monitor, 4/27/07)


28 posted on 09/21/2007 12:42:48 PM PDT by Petronski (Cleveland Indians: AL Central -3)
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To: papasmurf

His buds? Or wounded veterans? True, I guess they are his buds.


29 posted on 09/21/2007 12:45:42 PM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: pissant

Sorry, the Vets only get 1/3 of the deal, and then they only have space for 25 at a time.

The rest goes to rich donators to golf, practice touch and go’s,and have fun.


30 posted on 09/21/2007 12:47:49 PM PDT by papasmurf (I'm for Free, Fair, and Open trade. America needs to stand by it's true Friend. Israel.)
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To: Petronski

VERY nice.


31 posted on 09/21/2007 12:49:40 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Of the potential GOP front runners, FT has one of the better records on immigration.- NumbersUSA)
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To: papasmurf

And just what has Fred Thompson ever done for any Veteran?


32 posted on 09/21/2007 12:50:20 PM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: pissant
It’s disturbing that an extremely influential lobbyist lawyer would be so adamantly trying to attack the ability of other Americans to have some political influence. How elitist is that?
33 posted on 09/21/2007 12:50:38 PM PDT by Perchant
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To: Plutarch
Just for you due consideration.

Seems Fred has a little competition in his “zeal” for CFR....

http://www.spectator.org/blogger.asp?BlogID=8280

But I know, just minor details....

34 posted on 09/21/2007 12:50:48 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (I don't use a sarcasm tag, it kills the effect...)
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To: Spiff

Did rather help you with that?

LLS


35 posted on 09/21/2007 12:52:34 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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To: pissant

http://web.archive.org/web/20021031004411/thompson.senate.gov/press/2001/releases/pr040201.html

April 2, 2001

THOMPSON LAUDS PASSAGE OF McCAIN-FEINGOLD CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM LEGISLATION

WASHINGTON - U.S. Senator Fred Thompson (R-TN) today lauded Senate passage of the McCain-Feingold campaign finance reform legislation, which passed the Senate by a 59-41 vote.

The bill bans soft money contributions, restricts corporate and union spending on campaign ads, and provides greater disclosure and stronger election laws.

“This is a good day for the United States Senate. It demonstrates once again that this body can respond to a demonstrated public need,” said Thompson, an original co-sponsor of the McCain- Feingold bill and a supporter of the legislation since 1995.

“The McCain-Feingold bill will restore a campaign finance system that has become more loophole than law,” Senator Thompson added. “We will once again ensure that unlimited corporate, union, and individual funds will not compromise the integrity of the political process.”

During debate on the bill last week, the Senate approved two amendments sponsored by Senator Thompson. A Thompson-Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) amendment increased the individual hard money limits on contributions to candidates from $1,000 to $2,000. It also increased several other hard money limits and indexed their future growth to inflation.

“But for the willingness of Senator Thompson and Senator Feinstein to find common ground on the issue of increasing (hard) money limits, I fear our efforts would have proved as futile as they have in the past,” Senator McCain said on the Senate floor prior to the vote on final passage.

The Senate also approved a Thompson-Joe Lieberman (D-CT) amendment which will strengthen the enforcement of our federal election laws by increasing penalties for campaign finance violations. “The blatant and widespread abuses in the 1996 campaign fundraising scandal clearly necessitate better enforcement if we are to avoid a repeat of those violations in future campaigns,” Thompson said.

The McCain-Feingold bill will now be considered by the House of Representatives.

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http://web.archive.org/web/20021027034622/thompson.senate.gov/press/2002/releases/pr032702.html

March 27, 2002

Thompson Lauds Signing of Historic Campaign Finance Reform Bill

WASHINGTON - U.S. Senator Fred Thompson (R-TN) today lauded final approval of historic campaign finance reform legislation as President Bush signed the bill into law.

Thompson said, “I want to applaud President Bush for showing both foresight and courage in signing a bill that will help to restore confidence in our electoral system and reduce cynicism among the American people. This is a major step toward changing the way we do business here in Washington.”

The bill bans unlimited, unregulated soft money contributions and increases the limited, regulated, fully disclosed hard money contribution limits to help challengers and to combat the increasing presence of special interest groups in political campaigns. Thompson was the first Republican Senator other than John McCain to support the bill in 1995 and has been working for its passage ever since.

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36 posted on 09/21/2007 12:53:09 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Grunthor

I’m for Fred and I like Hunter and would never say anything derogatory about him... I think most Fred supporters support Duncan also.

LLS


37 posted on 09/21/2007 12:55:43 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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To: Grunthor
We try not to, he’s a good guy. Plus he doesn’t get a lot of press, no one is attacking him because he is no threat right now (I am open to that changing but it doesn’t look good.)

Now we will dog his supporters with the disingenuous attacks on FDT.

38 posted on 09/21/2007 12:58:07 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (I don't use a sarcasm tag, it kills the effect...)
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To: ejonesie22

“Now we will dog his supporters with the disingenuous attacks on FDT.”

I’m with you there.


39 posted on 09/21/2007 1:02:16 PM PDT by Grunthor (So is Ron Paul to the mentally deranged what Aquaman is to fish or something?)
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To: pissant
he opposed "soft money," which "poured" in and is "called bribery." "We wanted to do away with that."

Fred is a good guy and I'll gladly vote for him if he gets the nomination.

Having said that, the politicians all claim they want to get the big money out of politics, why don't they do what they do best, tax all political contributions over $200 at 95 ~ 99 percent?

That would get the big money out of politics and raise money for the insatiable government at the same time.

40 posted on 09/21/2007 1:02:57 PM PDT by RJL
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