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“Plain-Speaking” About McCain-Feingold-Thompson
Townhall.com ^ | 9/21/07 | James Bopp Jr.

Posted on 09/21/2007 11:33:22 AM PDT by pissant

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To: Petronski
There’s Slick Willard, straddling both sides of the issue!

That would take a very wide stance indeed. Perhaps Larry Craig offered some expert pointers.
61 posted on 09/21/2007 1:57:44 PM PDT by George W. Bush (Apres moi, le deluge.)
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To: WalterSkinner

Gotta craft a message not to offend, I reckon...


62 posted on 09/21/2007 2:00:41 PM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: nativesoutherner

The correct solution, of course, is to have full disclosure of all money sources, down to an identifiable person or legitimate business entity.

Then, if the pol bestows special favors, his opponent in the next election can use it to get him booted.


63 posted on 09/21/2007 2:03:27 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: pissant

The author is on Romney’s staff. Just another hit piece. Too bad its not working, with Mitt now in the single digits in many states.

Thompson supported something he thought was a good idea at the time, and changed his mind after he saw that it didn’t work as intended. And the whole bill was written in the first place to combat Clintonian tactics.


64 posted on 09/21/2007 2:03:54 PM PDT by DesScorp
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To: DesScorp

And that excuses him from banning independent ads within 60 days of an election? ANd then defending that to the Supreme Court?


65 posted on 09/21/2007 2:06:29 PM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: pissant
Why someone would need an adviser for life issues is beyond my comprehension.

Can't say, but being in support of one candidate, while generating information that would put another candidate in a bad light, is a surefire way to get your words ignored and labeled as someone who is biased, and has an agenda.

66 posted on 09/21/2007 2:20:12 PM PDT by Col Freeper
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To: Col Freeper

But, just like fredheads attacks on Mitt and Rudy, etc, it cannot be dismissed out of hand. Just because someone does not like you, does not mean they are always wrong. On this one, he’s dead nuts on.


67 posted on 09/21/2007 2:24:21 PM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: mbraynard
Which is totally irrelelvant to the arguments he makes, thanks.

Nope.

Being in support of one candidate, while generating information that would put another candidate in a bad light, is a surefire way to get your words ignored and labeled as someone who is biased, and has an agenda.

You are most welcome, please come and visit us again.

68 posted on 09/21/2007 2:24:27 PM PDT by Col Freeper
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To: pissant
But, just like fredheads attacks on Mitt and Rudy, etc, it cannot be dismissed out of hand. Just because someone does not like you, does not mean they are always wrong.

I didn't dismiss his comments out of hand, and stated that Fred would have to take his lumps for anything he has done wrong.

If "Fredheads" who are actively a part of Fred's candidacy generate things about Mitt and Rudy, I would certainly expect them to also take any lumps coming to them.

I always try to determine whether the poster is just a regular Joe/Jane, pumped up on his candidate, or a paid supporter of the candidate.

The first type poster might (or might not) change his mind about who he supports, as information is posted, reviewed, tested, verified, etc., on FR.

But I don't think the other type poster will, as long as the paycheck continues.

On this one, he’s dead nuts on.

Perhaps. I have, and will continue to read many posts on FR as the various factions maneuver for position in the Republican primary. Some of it turns out to apparently be true, some partly true, some blatantly false, or twisted to fit an agenda.

I suspect that we would agree that the FR readers will determine for themselves whether it is dead on. LOL, I'll skip the anatomical reference in my response.

69 posted on 09/21/2007 2:39:09 PM PDT by Col Freeper
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To: pissant
*****Frankly, CFR is not much worse than all the other labyrinth of campaign finance laws preceeding it, with one MAJOR exception. The curtailment of free speech 30 days before a primary and 60 days before a general. This is not some “gee it did not work out well” type thing. The NRA and Christian groups and most conservatives were howling at these restrictions. Fred supported them knowing full well what they did. He cosponsored not only the whole bill and helped draft it, he specifically cosponsored that language on the issue ads.****

Lets face it, almost all CFR laws should be titled incumbent protection laws. The House and the Senate are mainly populated by career politicians and they are not going to pass any laws that put their careers at risk. Most “real” conservatives want more discussion because we think we can win the battle of ideas. Opening up limits, but with full and timely disclosure of where the funds came from is the best way to go.

This is just another chink in Fred’s armor and another reason why he will not excite the “conservative” base. He can’t motivate the RR base either. Therefore, he can’t win the election.

70 posted on 09/21/2007 5:14:14 PM PDT by jmeagan (Our last chance to change the direction of the country--Ron Paul)
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To: pissant
I think Fred's support of the campaign finance legislation came from what he saw in his Committee's investigations into campaign funding. What he saw was that well funded groups were essentially taking away the voice of the individual voter, and that there was massive corruption that went along with that. As he mentioned, he considered it bribery in many cases. The voter was not being heard in all the noise, so I think Fred was trying to bring some balance to that situation.

Even though interest groups are precluded from advertising within a certain time frame before an election, individuals can still express their opinions any time they want. Even as late as the day of the election, folks can stand the requisite distance from the polling place, holding a sign promoting their candidate for all to see on the way in to vote.

71 posted on 09/21/2007 5:27:59 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: pissant
James Bopp, Jr and Dr. Dobson both dissing Fred in the same week? The Evangelical leaders who pushed their flocks to the voting booths in droves in 2000 and 2004 are going to be hard to win over this time around.
72 posted on 09/21/2007 5:37:30 PM PDT by elizabetty (Don't Taze Me Bro')
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To: longtermmemmory

Actually,

He did say that. He also stated that the law did not work as he intended it and maybe we should just go for immediate and public reporting of all campaign contributions.


73 posted on 09/21/2007 5:50:36 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: MrB; Spiff; pissant

Which is what Fred suggested just recently.


74 posted on 09/21/2007 5:54:20 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: ejonesie22
The fact that Fred has expressed doubt/disappointment about how CFR actually panned out. The fact that his intentions, as mentioned in this thread already may have been noble if not necessarily the best in execution...

What attack on the first amendment in the form of a Campaign Finance Reform law did Mitt Romney fight for in the Senate and the Supreme Court?
75 posted on 09/21/2007 6:12:06 PM PDT by elizabetty (Don't Taze Me Bro')
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To: ejonesie22
Look who the guy who wrote the article works for.

James Bopp, Jr. is a leading campaign finance litigator who serves as General Counsel for the James Madison Center for Free Speech in Terre Haute, Indiana. He also serves as Special Advisor for Life Issues for the Romney for President campaign.

76 posted on 09/21/2007 6:24:05 PM PDT by Doofer (Fred Dalton Thompson For President)
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To: pissant

Stop it. Only Romney isn’t allowed to ever change his position. Thompson can change his mind all he wants.

After all, he’s an actor, so maybe he was just playing the part of being McCain’s biggest supporter.


77 posted on 09/21/2007 8:01:12 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: pissant

You don’t think Duncan Hunter has any advisors on his team?

And if he does, you think it would be right for someone to ask what’s wrong with him in those areas that he has “advisors”?

For example, maybe a “foreign policy” advisor? Does that mean that candidates who have “foreign policy” advisors are suspect in that area?

Or are you just not aware that “life issues” means issues of interest to the pro-life community?


78 posted on 09/21/2007 8:20:36 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Grunthor

Why would they? Hunter’s no threat to Thompson. They are spending most of their energy attacking Romney.


79 posted on 09/21/2007 8:24:53 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Hunter has no advisors. Never has. He has a campaign manager, but that’s about it. Hunter is the guy others go to for advice.


80 posted on 09/21/2007 8:28:39 PM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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