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Guiliani Claims An Evolution on Guns Rights
theatlantic.com via drudge ^ | 09/21/07 | Marc Ambinder

Posted on 09/21/2007 9:21:31 AM PDT by Froufrou

Glossing over the less appealing line items on his gun control resume, ex-NYC mayor Rudy Giuliani presented himself as sympathetic to the aims of the National Rifle Association and pledged, as president, to protect gun rights.

"Your right to bear arms is based on a reasonable degree of safety," he said. He indicated that he would oppose new efforts to tighten national gun laws. "I believe that law endforcement should focus on enforcing the laws that exist on the books as opposed to passing new extensions of laws," he said.

"A person's home is their castle. They have the right to protect themselves in their own home." Giulaini explained the lawsuit he initiated in 2000 against gun manufacturers by saying that he was "excessive in everyway that I could think of in order to reduce crime" but said that "intervening events" like September 11th had caused his views to evolve. "I think that lawsuit has gone in the direction that I don't agree it."

He cited a DC court ruling overturning the city's gun ban as instrumental to changing and "strengthening" his views on gun control. That ruling, Parker vs. the Distict of Columbia, was handed down just as Giuliani was beginning his presidential bid. Giuliani said that MoveOn.org's ad criticizing Gen. Petreaus was out of bounds and hinted that the group should face some sort of sanction.

"They passed a line that we should not allow an American political organizations to pass," he said. "We are at war right now, whether some people want to recognize it or not."

(Excerpt) Read more at marcambinder.theatlantic.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; banglist; giuliani; gunvote; nra; one; rudy; rudyonguns
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1 posted on 09/21/2007 9:21:32 AM PDT by Froufrou
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To: Froufrou

This man is a liar.


2 posted on 09/21/2007 9:22:21 AM PDT by Grunthor (So is Ron Paul to the mentally deranged what Aquaman is to fish or something?)
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To: kristinn; Jim Robinson; Graybeard58; presidio9; weegee; wideawake; pissant; RexBeach; Red Badger; ..

Flip-flops from the GOP?


3 posted on 09/21/2007 9:22:54 AM PDT by Froufrou
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To: Froufrou

Sounds like Hillary. Do whatever lying it takes to get elected. Wait a minute, thats ALL politicians.


4 posted on 09/21/2007 9:23:21 AM PDT by Sig Sauer P220
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To: Froufrou
Great, he makes a positive turn on gun rights, but now he believes in evolution? Can't this guy get anything right?

Owl_Eagle

If what I just wrote made you sad or angry,
it was probably just a joke.

5 posted on 09/21/2007 9:23:51 AM PDT by End Times Sentinel (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: Froufrou

This man is imperfect.


7 posted on 09/21/2007 9:25:03 AM PDT by oldbrowser (Just being white is not going to be enough anymore.)
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To: Froufrou

Lying sack of [deleted].


8 posted on 09/21/2007 9:25:04 AM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: Grunthor
This man is a liar.

This man is a liar whore.

9 posted on 09/21/2007 9:25:24 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government, Benito Guilinni a short man in search of a balcony)
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To: Grunthor
Your right to bear arms is based on a reasonable degree of safety

While I agree that gun safety is desirable and a good thing, I don't find a single thing about it in the second amendment.

10 posted on 09/21/2007 9:26:32 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Froufrou
"A person's home is their castle. They have the right to protect themselves in their own home." Giulaini explained

Unless you happen to live in NYC

11 posted on 09/21/2007 9:27:19 AM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: P8riot

Rudy is a political opportunist.

12 posted on 09/21/2007 9:28:43 AM PDT by Rb ver. 2.0 (Reunite Gondwanaland!)
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To: Froufrou

How convenient, Rudy.


13 posted on 09/21/2007 9:29:08 AM PDT by RockinRight (Can we start calling Fred "44" now, please?)
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To: Froufrou

I want to know when is the last time Rudy fired a gun?


14 posted on 09/21/2007 9:29:25 AM PDT by Rb ver. 2.0 (Reunite Gondwanaland!)
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To: Froufrou

I think to some extent I can believe him. When I lived in NY, guns were something people of quality just didn’t own! I mean, you were supposed to call the police for protection, right?

When I came to FL to live, my views did a 180. I began to understand the 2nd amendment, and my conservatism evolved.

However, my feelings towards guns now revolve on the principles in the Constitution. I would like Guiliani to take a more “principled’ stand on guns, as our right, not just what is more “practical” at a given time or place.


15 posted on 09/21/2007 9:29:40 AM PDT by I still care ("Remember... for it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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To: Froufrou

“”Your right to bear arms is based on a reasonable degree of safety,” he said.”

NO. It is based on the US Constitution Rudy, it has absolutly NOTHING to do with a “reasonable degree of safety”.
Hell, if you can’t see that you are worse than I thought.


16 posted on 09/21/2007 9:30:22 AM PDT by hophead ( "Enjoy Every Sandwich")
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To: Froufrou

“Your right to bear arms is based on a reasonable degree of safety,”

No Rudy, the right to KEEP and Bear arms is a right given to us by our Creator and recognized by the Constitution as a God given right.

It’s there to allow us to resist, by force, your dumb behind if you ever become president and decide to implement the rest of your leftist liberal ideas.

No other reason.


17 posted on 09/21/2007 9:31:18 AM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.)
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To: Froufrou

Know what? If elected President I could easily see Rooty evolve right back into his gun grabbing ways. Oh sure, there’d be some minor event upon which he would base his change of heart, but I believe he would be searching for just such an event to then declare that “drastic times calls for drastic measures” and then proceed to push a willing Dem Congress for gun control laws.

You just know I’m right about this.


18 posted on 09/21/2007 9:31:28 AM PDT by Obadiah
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To: Froufrou
Guiliani Claims An Evolution on Guns Rights

Great, Rudy. Upset both the Second Amendment crowd and the Creationism crowd.

19 posted on 09/21/2007 9:32:10 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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To: hophead

Agreed.


20 posted on 09/21/2007 9:33:09 AM PDT by monkeycard (There is no such thing as too much ammo.)
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