Giuliani Seeking Support From NRA (Pigs now fly, Satan buys parka, etc.)

The Washington Post ^ | September 20, 2007 | Michael D. Shear and Anne E. Kornblut

[2ndDivisionVet]

Rudolph W. Giuliani will go before the rank and file of the National Rifle Association on Friday, seeking support for his Republican presidential campaign from a group he once likened to "extremists" for its efforts to repeal the ban on assault weapons.

But even as the former New York mayor strives to burnish his Second Amendment credentials at the gathering in Washington, a panel of federal judges in his home town will be hearing arguments on the lawsuit that Giuliani filed seven years ago aimed at punishing the nation's gun manufacturers for violent crimes involving firearms.

Announcing the lawsuit in 2000, then-Mayor Giuliani wrote in his weekly column about issues facing the city that "this is an industry which profits from the suffering of innocent people. The lawsuit is intended to end the free pass that the gun industry has enjoyed for a very long time, which has resulted in too many avoidable deaths."

He called the lawsuit "an aggressive step towards restoring accountability to an industry that profits from the suffering of others." The U.S. Court of Appeals for the 2nd Circuit will decide whether the lawsuit -- against Colt, Glock, Smith & Wesson and others -- can move forward despite federal legislation that attempted to grant immunity to the companies.

A spokeswoman for Giuliani's presidential campaign yesterday declined to say whether he still supports the lawsuit or the goals he laid out in 2000.

"Mayor Giuliani successfully worked to get illegal guns out of the hands of criminals in order to transform a city out of control," said spokeswoman Maria Comella. "By being tough on gun crimes and enforcing the laws on the books, New York City's murder rate was cut by 66 percent.

[sweetiepiezer]

Giuliani is a complete fraud.

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^5 Jim.

[pianomikey]

We all make mistakes, and the best among us correct them, publicly acknowledging wrongdoing. The question is, is his impending about-face legitimate? Or is this just another scam to buy votes?

[looscnnn]

I don't buy Giuliani's "evolution", he still says "Your right to bear arms is based on a reasonable degree of safety,"......"A person's home is their castle. They have the right to protect themselves in their own home."

Sorry, our right is not based on any degree of safety. It is a right period. A person has the right to protect themself anywhere, not just in their home. They also have the right to use them for hunting, competition, etc.

[aligncare]

Okay, let’s stipulate gun control is a bad thing. And we all agree that Giuliani is the worst offender in pushing for controls ... then how do you explain murders in NYC going from 2000 a year to less than 700 a year under the Giuliani administration? That’s 1300 people alive each year that would have been killed prior to Giuliani’s strict enforcement of NYC’s gun laws that took more guns off the streets.

The researcher and author, John Lott, wrote that more guns equals less crime. In the example of NYC, it seems the opposite is true: as more guns were removed from the streets, the less overall crime and murder there was.

What explains the apparent paradox?

[Fred]

explanation...Enforcing the current laws and keeping those who commit a crime with a firearm IN JAIL and not letting them out after a week.

[Fred]

Got that right...

If VA Tech would have only follow this philosophy....SELF DEFENSE IS A RIGHT