Posted on 09/18/2007 10:20:07 PM PDT by kellynla
Several Islamic groups in Southern California sued the FBI on Tuesday to force the agency to release more documents about the alleged surveillance of individuals and local mosques following the Sept. 11 attacks.
In May 2006, 11 Muslim leaders and community groups sent the FBI a Freedom of Information Act request asking for documents about suspected surveillance of them and sued after the bureau released just four pages, one of them largely blank.
The ACLU, which filed the FOIA request and lawsuit, believes the FBI did not turn over all its is withholding information. The civil rights group said in a statement that the FBI "squandered an opportunity" to build trust with the Muslim community by not releasing the information.
The lawsuit was filed in U.S. District Court in Santa Ana and alleges that FBI officials made an inadequate search for documentsthe FBI's document search was inadequate. The suit says there is concern that FBI investigations "threaten to erode the constitutionally protected freedom of religion that Muslim Americans enjoy."
Tom Blanton, director of the National Security Archive at George Washington University in Washington, said that in the last five years the FBI had increasingly responded to FOIA requests by saying there were no records. "So, four pages is a gold mine," he said.
The group archive is an independent research institute that collects and publishes declassified documents obtained through the FOIA.
Last year, local Islamic leaders said they turned to the ACLU for help after the FBI provided little information in response to their concern about government monitoring. They said mosquegoers reported being questioned by the FBI about their religious practices and the sermons given during prayer services.
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Revoke their citizenship. Deport them. Raze the mosques.
Next issue...
No foolin, the FBI or any other acronym agency would be the least of their problems if we had a large scale terrorist attack in the US, I can just picture anytime immediately after say a scenario of dead and dying children in a theme park or schools armed soccer mom vigilante groups being organized to hunt down ANY Muslims all across the US. I can just visualize crowds armed if not with guns bulldozers advancing upon mosques and the police elsewhere conducting traffic control around roadkill. Utilities would have “upgrading disconnects” at any Muslim place of worship. Muslim owned businesses will have a sudden drop in business especially the cab drivers that are driving around gathering surveillance info for terroristic activities.
islam will be stomped, flattened and shunned upon by the left, the MSM, it will be searched out in all places like in prisons and termed as an act negative to American security and freedom, it will be outlawed.
I personally manage a small company and as yet have not had an Islamic employeee and never will, in my small part I control that decision on my behalf as many other can and will do so.
Fear us Muslims for we are the sleeping giant.
that sounds like a real plan...now sell it to the lib/dems...the lib/dem media and jorge bush that is speeding the immigration process so half of iraq will soon be here!!!
It’s not a plan. It’s a fantasy. In reality, we’re going to be installing tax-payer-funded footbaths all over this land.
I agree. No matter what Muslims did to us, we wouldn’t respond. Part of the Muslim Brotherhood’s plan - which has come out in the Holy Foundation trial - was to coopt American institutions and to launch a two-pronged attack, where they took over quietly from within by “cooperation,” and then launched occasional jihadi attacks just to make it clear that they were serious.
They started this in the 1980’s, btw, and 9/11 has done nothing but speed up their progress.
Think that’s unconstitutional? We can do what we need to during war time. It may not be the American way. But if we don’t overcome these murderers and rapists, there will be no America and US Constitution.
Some good sources:
The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam
America Alone
Because they Hate
The West’s Last Chance
The Cube and the Cathedral
Unholy Alliance
The New World of Islam, written by Lothrop Stoddard in 1922. Yes, many people were aware of this growing problem as far back as the turn of the century, but they were denounced as racists and fear-mongers.
Read about your enemies. Fight them. Have lots of children and raise them right.
I’d take it one step further. I’d deport any that complain about it.
Its success in spreading and persisting is due entirely to its insistence on unrelenting violence to enforce its totalitarian dominance in any society unfortunate enough to be attacked by it.
Thus "Islam" should have no First Amendment protections. If the Nazi party were to declare itself a religion, would we then simply ignore its political aspirations and terrorism in the pursuit of them?
Islam is Nazism. We should expel it from our midst as an alien and hostile force.
I agree. The “religious” part of Islam is simply its way of maintaining its domination, and that was what Mohammed dreamed it up and used it for. It’s a political movement aimed at Arab world domination through the violent overthrow of the governments of non-Muslims and the capture and enslavement of their peoples.
#28 - totally agree dittoes! To the camel pokers I say ‘Tuff shiite, aackmed.’ (why do muzzie names sound like a cat hacking up a hairball?)
Well said.
And what better way to legitimize something like that than saying "God wills it, and I am his prophet - So let me be your ruler".
The Kings of Europe used to use the same scam in the name of Christianity. The Declaration of Independence overthrew that notion, with the proclamation that "all men are created equal" - which meant that no man was born a king, that is, chosen by God to rule over others.
The refrain of the time was that "we have no king except King Jesus". And there was no man on Earth who had any claim on his authority more than any other man.
Mohammed was just another in a long line of creeps who have paraded through history saying "God made me ruler of everyone! And if you don't believe it I'll cut your head off - so give me your money and your daughters".
Sick garbage, nothing more.
Actually, the kings of Europe did not use that scam. Christianity is not a theocratic system, and until the advent of Protestantism, the Church and the State were frequently at each other’s throats. There are two different realms in Christianity, and the only people to challenge this were Calvin and Zwingli, although their theocracies naturally failed (because theocracy and Christinaty are not compatible) and the Protestants then went back to an understanding that separated church and state.
As far as native peoples in the New World, the Kings were actually their protectors - at the command of the Pope, who forbade the enslavement or exploitation of the natives. The truly bad expeditions were all private ventures that were not supported by Spain or Portugal. The Church actually sent priests and religious, mostly Jesuits and Franciscans, to mitigate the situation and defend the native peoples.
Incidentally, native Americans were not converted by force. They were converted by preaching and example, and the sad thing is that many of them then gave up their violent ways, stopped hunting down and torturing their rival tribes - and as a result, were perceived as defenseless and were attacked and killed by other native American groups. This was the case even though the government of Spain had sent troops to protect native American Christian villages.
Part of the problem in the New World, of course, is that the British kept attacking the Spanish. The British killed large numbers of Christian native Americans and Spanish priests and missionaries in Florida, in at least one case by forcing the village into the church and then setting fire to it.
“I’d take it one step further. I’d deport any that complain about it.”
Sounds good to me.
As long as mosques are here, they should be under surveilance!
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