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“Top” GOP candidates chicken out of Value Voters Debate; Ron Paul attends and wins, again
John Seiler | Sept. 18 2007 | John Seiler

Posted on 09/18/2007 8:04:36 PM PDT by freedomdefender

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To: freedomdefender
"Monday night the Value Voters Debate for Republicans was skipped by the so-called “top” candidates, Rudy Giuliani, Mitt Romney, Fred Thompson, and John McCain. Thus showing they don’t have any values, and are chicken. "

Look up the term non-sequitur.
41 posted on 09/21/2007 11:51:05 AM PDT by LIConFem (Thompson 2008. Lifetime ACU Rating: 86 -- Hunter 2008 (VP) Lifetime ACU Rating: 92)
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To: freedomdefender

How much aluminum foil was there?


42 posted on 09/21/2007 11:53:53 AM PDT by Fledermaus (Get a colonoscopy - Ron Paulyps could be cancerous!)
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To: A CA Guy

Once again you are avoiding the issue myfriend, you are not answering my “faulty logic” thereby diluting your point becuase you fail to answer it; and as a result my points are not seen as faulty (becuase they aren’t)..

I could care less what you call (helper of Democrats..ect?)

AND you didn’t answer my question: Can I take that as a, YES?

Sure makes sense now..


43 posted on 09/21/2007 12:03:14 PM PDT by JSDude1 (When a liberal represents the Presidential Nominee for the Republicans; THEY'RE TOAST)
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To: JSDude1
The whole point is that when you pull off Ross Perot type of voting in main elections, you empower Democrats and all you supposedly wish to oppose.

You sure as hell are not going to get better Judges, economy or respect from Democrats. So why do things that help them get elected?

I’ve heard all the religious or pure conservative arguments for most of a decade now and it is immature to think that way.

What are the fruits of what you want to do?
President Hillary Clinton.

That is why you do the best you can in the primary and then go for the Republican.
You are going to have either a Republican or Democrat win and the Democrat side is so left it’s ridiculous now.

44 posted on 09/21/2007 12:09:25 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: JSDude1

Support DUNCAN HUNTER.

Problem solved.


45 posted on 09/21/2007 12:17:40 PM PDT by Kimberly GG (INVEST IN THE FUTURE - DUNCAN HUNTER '08.....(NO MORE CFRers))
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To: A CA Guy

How is is immature?

You still refuse to anwser my point; you call them “immature”, “stupid”, yet my points STAND becuase they haven’t really been challenged..?

Yo, I don’t have to support the Republican candidate (as a Conservative) like I said, I think the Primary system is stacked: there isn’t a way for a true Ronald Reagan style conservative to win..and if a liberal does, I will NOT support them..

I think I will take the ANSWER to the Question of do You have personal vested interest in this fight as: YES.

Now you haven’t really pointed out why my arguments are “idiotic”..infact you really haven’t answered me at all.

Will you..?

In anycase instead of continueing to go in circles metaphorically. It is pretty much useless to argue with you unless you actually want to debate my points (and yours too, instead of the attacks!). SO unless you do, this will be my last post to you becuase YOU only post the same thing, over, and over, and over..again!


46 posted on 09/21/2007 12:18:27 PM PDT by JSDude1 (When a liberal represents the Presidential Nominee for the Republicans; THEY'RE TOAST)
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To: JSDude1

You don’t in the primary need to support the Republican candidate but during the main election you sure do unless you are for getting Democrats in power.

It really is as simple as that.


47 posted on 09/21/2007 12:19:53 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy

NO, I (WE Principled Cons) do NOT@!


48 posted on 09/21/2007 12:20:59 PM PDT by JSDude1 (When a liberal represents the Presidential Nominee for the Republicans; THEY'RE TOAST)
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To: DakotaRed

(chuckle)


49 posted on 09/21/2007 12:21:27 PM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: JSDude1

That’s why many here including myself fell third party types are just liberals who like to talk a little conservatism to get by.
I look at what they do, and what they do gives liberals more power than conservatives, so that is where I consider their loyalties to be since that is the outcome they enable.


50 posted on 09/21/2007 12:25:40 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy

FELL = FEEL


51 posted on 09/21/2007 12:26:03 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: JSDude1
Frankly, as I have said, I am not disloyal to America by not voting Republican for POTUS

Oh yes you are!! Don't you realize the 'new' definition for patriotism is partisanship?!? If you don't support the 'right' government idiot (and show a good dose of jingoism), you can't be patriotic....

Of course the attitude that has taken over the Presidential nomination process is pretty much what we were warned of by the Framers.

52 posted on 09/21/2007 12:28:37 PM PDT by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: freedomdefender

Aw jeez. I bet I skipped church the week these guys were appointed guardian of my values.


53 posted on 09/21/2007 12:30:59 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: A CA Guy

Like I said myfriend; I am only taking this measure (this EXTREME measure) for the President ‘08, because I think it is EXTREME circumstances; and we Can-not afford a liberal especially a liberal Republican President!


54 posted on 09/21/2007 1:18:59 PM PDT by JSDude1 (When a liberal represents the Presidential Nominee for the Republicans; THEY'RE TOAST)
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To: billbears

I think I got ~memmo~ quite clear from A CA Guy..several times.

Afterall My Soul is bought and ~PAID~ for by the Republican Party, not Jesus Christ (Sarc/off).


55 posted on 09/21/2007 1:21:34 PM PDT by JSDude1 (When a liberal represents the Presidential Nominee for the Republicans; THEY'RE TOAST)
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To: freedomdefender
Geez, “Value Voters” sure has an ego problem. Narcissism is not a good value.
56 posted on 09/21/2007 1:23:26 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: JSDude1
I am kind of dissapointed that they were ckicken enough not to answer tough religious voter’s questions.

Nah, they just don't view the group "Value Voters" as worthy of their time.

By the way, I am a values voter, but I would never want to be affiliated with a group that has such narcissistic tendencies.

57 posted on 09/21/2007 1:29:56 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: finnman69

Nope, he lost, even with the spamming...

Results Summary
Mike Huckabee 63%
Ron Paul 12%
Alan Keyes 7%
Sam Brownback 5%
Duncan Hunter 4%
Fred Thompson 4%
Tom Tancredo 2%
John Cox 1%
Rudy Giuliani 1%
John McCain 1%
Mitt Romney 0%


58 posted on 09/23/2007 3:57:18 AM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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