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Huckabee wins Values Voter straw poll
World Net Daily ^ | September 18, 2007 | World Net Daily

Posted on 09/18/2007 1:36:41 PM PDT by AFA-Michigan

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To: Jim Robinson

Jim, you’re fairly high on Fred Thmpson are you not?


21 posted on 09/18/2007 2:08:18 PM PDT by traderrob6
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To: AFA-Michigan

Ping the Pro-Romney ping-list (I’d like to hear them whine, and explain the absence of their favorite candidate!).


22 posted on 09/18/2007 2:09:02 PM PDT by JSDude1 (When a liberal represents the Presidential Nominee for the Republicans; THEY'RE TOAST)
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To: elizabetty

“Wow, Huckabee is the most popular of the guys who nobody takes seriously!”

And Mitt Romney was the least popular — ZERO votes — among debate delegates representing a voter bloc without whom no Repub can win the White House.

Some Soros-funded 527 will be more than happy next year to run TV ads in the South showing video of Mitt ever so passionately explaining his unwavering commitment to “a woman’s right to choose” (to pay an abortionist to kill her prenatal child), even invoking his deceased mother’s “courageous” support of abortion on demand.

Or his belief that homosexuals should be allowed to participate in the Boy Scouts.

Or featuring the daily Salt Lake City newspaper — the one owned by his own church — editorially criticizing Romney for making money from the sale of pornography.

Or perhaps they’ll mail millions of southern voter a copy of Mitt’s letter seeking the endorsement of the “Log Cabin” homosexual activist group, in which he endorsed forcing our military to integrate individuals openly involved in homosexual activity and promised he’d be more effective than Ted Kennedy at promoting the homosexual agenda. (He got their endorsement, twice.)

Yep. There’s a surefire formula for putting even Southern states in play against a former First Lady of Arkansas.

Think Huckabee could hold the South against Hillary? Uh-huh. He’d likely even carry Hope.


23 posted on 09/18/2007 2:10:15 PM PDT by AFA-Michigan
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To: ConservativeDude

“The vote included 340 delegates who were hand-selected by 40 of the country’s social activists and opinion-makers. Interesting methodology.”

And intentionally so.

The purpose being to indicate which candidate actually has the support of pro-family activists nationally.

These were people who had to pay to fly across the country, recruited by major pro-family activists.

As opposed to all earlier straw polls won by whichever candidate had enough $$$ to rent busses and pay people to show up.


24 posted on 09/18/2007 2:13:38 PM PDT by AFA-Michigan
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To: EveningStar

Huckerterbee is pro amnesty and not onboard for the war on terror.
His supporters have been sucked in by another Hope, Ark shyster


25 posted on 09/18/2007 2:14:36 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Duncan Hunter '08 Tough on WOT & Illegals)
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To: Jim Robinson

I can only hope..I am currently a Tancredo guy, but Huckabee is my #2 or 3. If only the media weren’t the one’s that pick the so called frontrunners. Huckabee would have been a Top-Tier candidate in yesteryear..heck he still might be (if he can do well on the ground..!).


26 posted on 09/18/2007 2:14:51 PM PDT by JSDude1 (When a liberal represents the Presidential Nominee for the Republicans; THEY'RE TOAST)
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To: Continental Soldier
I used to like Mike too. I campaigned hard for him before he was elected Lt/Gov. in Arkansas.

Went out in force again when he ran for Governor.

But something happened to Mike. His heart grew bigger than his body, and he drank more than his share of his so-called "Jesus Juice" when he took on the role of the Savior of Illegal Immigrants.

That's why I can't support him anymore.

sw

27 posted on 09/18/2007 2:16:07 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: traderrob6

I’m high on all the pro-God, pro-life, pro-family, pro-liberty, pro-America conservatives running. It just so happens that FRed seems to be flying higher than the others at the moment. I’m praying he soon knocks Rudy McRomney out of the race and all conservative boats rise.


28 posted on 09/18/2007 2:16:44 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Our God-given unalienable rights are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)
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To: All

Kinda disappointing that a pro-illegal/anti-American candidate like Huckabee would win such a poll.

Maybe more demonstrative of the GOP being toast in 08 than the liberal globalist wing of the GOP pushing Rudy/McCain/Romney/Thompson.

I will not vote for any candidate weak on illegals. Huckabee thinks illegals, and not Americabs, first. He is more along the lines of a Rudy than a conservative.


29 posted on 09/18/2007 2:17:53 PM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (FantasyCollegeBlitz.com)
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To: SoCalPol
I didn’t know about his WOT positions. Seems he has also played all sides of this issue. Its too bad he doesn’t have votes to judge on. I follow votes a lot more than rhetoric.

http://www.ontheissues.org/Mike_Huckabee.htm#War_+_Peace

http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Mike_Huckabee_War_+_Peace.htm

We bought Iraq because we broke it; responsibility to honor. (Sep 2007)
We made Saudis rich; pressure them to help win with honor. (Aug 2007)
Iraqi government disappointing, but we can’t up & pull out. (Jun 2007)
Insist that Iraq’s neighbors assist military & financially. (Jun 2007)
We needed 300,000 troops to win Iraq; must finish the job. (May 2007)
Don’t judge Iraq war while we’re in the middle of the war. (May 2007)
Iraq war has made us overlook domestic agenda. (Jan 2007)
Opposing Bush’s troop surge is a dangerous position. (Jan 2007)
Make sure we finish the job in Iraq and finish it right. (Jan 2007)
Strength is more effective deterrent to war than weakness. (Jan 2007)
Deal with terrorism as a joint federal-state responsibility. (Feb 2001)
Include states in anti-terrorism planning. (Sep 2001)

30 posted on 09/18/2007 2:18:17 PM PDT by mnehring (Thompson/Hunter 08 -- Fred08.com - The adults have joined the race.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Huckabee is pro-open borders and pro-nanny state, Jim. He praised the Clintons while criticizing Bush. Plus he's raised taxes as AR Governor.

Don't get me wrong, I like the man personally and admire his beliefs & would hold my nose if he was selected for VP since the VP can't really do nothing anyway. But as President, forget it. He's a continuation of the disastrous Bush "New Tone" and will bend over even more for the Rats.

31 posted on 09/18/2007 2:18:33 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Hillary Clinton is the most corrupt presidential candidate to ever run for office)
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To: mnehrling

I don’t think candidates from small towns and low popultion states have a grasp on reality.

The population of San Diego County is more than the state of Arkansas


32 posted on 09/18/2007 2:22:47 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Duncan Hunter '08 Tough on WOT & Illegals)
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To: Afronaut
And flipflopping Huckabee was for open borders [June 2005] before he was agin' 'em [summer/fall 2007]:

Huckabee
  Posted by cradle of freedom
On News/Activism 08/15/2007 7:54:10 PM CDT · 2 replies · 34+ views


Arkansas News Bureau | June 30, 2005 | Wesley Brown
Huckabee promotes 'open door' policy at LULAC convention Thursday, Jun 30, 2005 By Wesley Brown Arkansas News Bureau LITTLE ROCK - In a impassioned speech before hundreds of influential Hispanic civil rights leaders from across the nation, Gov. Mike Huckabee told a captive audience Wednesday that America is great because it has always opened it doors up to people seeking a better way of life. "Do unto others as you would have others do unto you," Huckabee said, citing the Golden Rule. "I have tried to govern that way and it stands to reason that I really do believe that...

33 posted on 09/18/2007 2:24:06 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: SoCalPol
Arkansas has become an odd place. Technically, my home office is there even though I telecommute from Texas. They’ve tried to get me to move several times and with all of the Taxes, they cannot raise my salary enough. I remember when I was a kid, everyone wanted to move there because of the low cost of living, now they have a high income tax, sales tax, and the killer, a personal property tax (separate from your normal property tax) where you have to value all your positions every year (Cars, TVs, Furniture, etc) and pay taxes on all those possessions.
34 posted on 09/18/2007 2:28:15 PM PDT by mnehring (Thompson/Hunter 08 -- Fred08.com - The adults have joined the race.)
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To: SoCalPol

It doesn’t matter. None of the seven candidates in last night’s debate are going to be nominated for president on the Republican ticket.


35 posted on 09/18/2007 2:29:06 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar
I don’t know... John Cox is looking pretty strong.
36 posted on 09/18/2007 2:29:54 PM PDT by mnehring (Thompson/Hunter 08 -- Fred08.com - The adults have joined the race.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Guess they didn’t delve too deeply into amnesty at the debate?

Huckabee did say he is opposed to open borders at the debate last evening.

[That is a revised position he has been claiming in recent months. However, it contradicts his actions/support as governor. See my post #33.]

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Huckabee is like several of the other wannabes: he will pander and tell them what he thinks they want to hear.
37 posted on 09/18/2007 2:29:58 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: mnehrling

rofl!


38 posted on 09/18/2007 2:32:19 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: Jim Robinson

They did ask a few questions about amnesty at the debate and he seemed to give good answers at the debate. However, many of the questions which were asked were asked in a yes or no format which didn’t provide a lot of information about the nuances of the candidates views. However, he seemed solid enough on immigration that I was surprised after the debate when some other posters showed me that Huckabee had previously been strongly pro-immigration. So, he seems to have flip-flopped on this issue but at least he is on the right side now.

That said, he seems really solid on his other conservative views and I love his fair tax policy. So, he may be a lot better candidate than many of us have given him credit. If the social conservatives start to really unify around him - I for one would probably be ok with that.


39 posted on 09/18/2007 2:43:06 PM PDT by dschapin
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To: AFA-Michigan
I watched the debate via the online feed, and was impressed with most of the questions and most of the answers. Forget the Republican nomination - no Republican is going to win the presidency without the backing of social conservatives. That constituency is non-disposable, and the candidates have another thing coming if they think fear of Hillary is going to be enough for these voters to endorse a pro-abort, pro-gay and/or anti-gun nominee.

Yeah, I know this wasn't the first and certainly will not be the last venue for conservative candidates to communicate their stance on social issues, but it was one of the best venues to do so.

40 posted on 09/18/2007 2:51:58 PM PDT by M203M4 (May the cankles of Herr Heinous rest lightly upon us)
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