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1 posted on 09/18/2007 10:46:48 AM PDT by skeptoid
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Test everything in every way until it breaks. If I was in charge of research, design, testing, the CEO or whatever, that’s what I would tell everybody. Test everything to failure, no matter what computer models say.


2 posted on 09/18/2007 10:48:46 AM PDT by wastedyears (George Orwell was a clairvoyant.)
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I think few people are even qualified to form an opinion.


3 posted on 09/18/2007 10:49:13 AM PDT by Perdogg (democrat party - the political wing of Al Qaeda.)
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Taking a cue from one of Boeing’s larger customers, they’ll be “field tested” with several hundred passengers aboard as a cost reduction program.


5 posted on 09/18/2007 10:52:37 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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dropped from a height of 15 feet

Don’t most planes fly higher than that?


6 posted on 09/18/2007 10:53:17 AM PDT by Rennes Templar ("The future ain't what it used to be".........Yogi Berra)
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Interesting analysis in The American Thinkerhttp://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2007/09/the_return_of_rathergate.html


7 posted on 09/18/2007 10:54:02 AM PDT by PurpleMan
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Did anyone ask this question about the possibility of the tail on an Airbus just falling off in flight?

Before they field tested the possibilty in NYC, I mean?


9 posted on 09/18/2007 10:55:24 AM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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Fired engineer calls 787’s plastic fuselage unsafe

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/boeingaerospace/2003889663_boeing180.html


13 posted on 09/18/2007 11:00:36 AM PDT by Revel
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Is former CBS newsman and anchor Dan Rather safe? If he were suspended 15ft above a runway and dropped if he reported something that he knew wasn’t supported by facts. Would he report this story the same way?
15 posted on 09/18/2007 11:03:35 AM PDT by ThomasThomas
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Is that what happened to Dan Rather? Did someone drop him from fifteen feet???


16 posted on 09/18/2007 11:04:06 AM PDT by Brofholdonow
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Smells like Reardon Metal to me, imagine building a better material for both strength and weight in aeronautics just to drive a nail in the coffin of Airbus. The socialists will be outraged as is Dan Rather I’m sure.


19 posted on 09/18/2007 11:07:03 AM PDT by Camel Joe (liberal=socialist=royalist/imperialist pawn=enemy of Freedom)
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Both Boeing and the FAA will make sure that the airframe is safe. Actual scientists/engineers work for both.

Then, I observed that the claim was brought up by Dan Rather.

Folks, Dan Rather doesn’t know type fonts. He knows about as much about structural engineering (which requires -—math-—gasp!) as Al Gore knows about climate.

The next thing, someone will be claiming that Hillary knows about medicine.

Never mind.


20 posted on 09/18/2007 11:10:41 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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Dan Rather, just can’t help himself..
Exactly like his socialist mentor — Conkite, BOTH are returning to the public arena to take their swings at America and the American economy..

These bastards NEVER quit!

We are far too tolerant and kind to the enemies of the Republic..

NOTHING is a convenient coincidence to a Leftist...


21 posted on 09/18/2007 11:12:16 AM PDT by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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Absolutely unsinkable! We will go on. :-)


25 posted on 09/18/2007 11:32:07 AM PDT by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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Dan will likely do as good a job with structural engineering as he does with his assault weapon reports.

My opinion, with new materials and construction techniques, you should test more not less. Too many unknowns can slip by. A well written and executed test program will find the weaknesses without excess expenses.

Computers do a lot of the automobile tests these days and results agree very close with actual tests, but ... there are always some things that weren’t thought about before hand.

Thoroughly test and verify, it’s the best way.

27 posted on 09/18/2007 11:47:07 AM PDT by Tarpon
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I have been following the 787 from day one, and I have every confidence in the Boeing engineers. There really is nothing to worry about. That said, I really would like to see them crash one just to put speculation to rest. Build a stripped down frame, set up 1,000 cameras in the desert, and put one into the ground - just to make sure.


30 posted on 09/18/2007 11:54:18 AM PDT by July 4th (A vacant lot cancelled out my vote for Bush.)
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But according to a summary of OSHA's findings, Boeing told investigators Weldon was fired for threatening a supervisor, specifically for stating he wanted to hang the African-American executive "on a meat hook" and that he "wouldn't mind" seeing a noose around the executive's neck.

The Engineer saying composites are unsafe seems he has a problem. Maybe he is trying to get attention for himself and has attracted the gadfly Rather to his nest.

32 posted on 09/18/2007 11:57:56 AM PDT by sr4402
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Today’s composites include some pretty astounding stuff; Most notable to my thinking are the HCA arrows, i.e. 250-gr arrows which can be fired from safari bows into hard targets without harm to the bow or the arrow. No material from 1970 or thereabouts could produce anything like that.


36 posted on 09/18/2007 12:07:28 PM PDT by damondonion
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Well, call me naive but I can’t picture Boeing making a plane that will shatter into bits during an accident. Just wouldn’t seem to be a good business decision.


37 posted on 09/18/2007 12:07:47 PM PDT by BfloGuy (It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker, that we can expect . . .)
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45 posted on 09/18/2007 12:41:58 PM PDT by jaydubya2
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I know nothing of composites, but I do know aluminum and rivets. Sloppy, high maintenance and prone to corrosion in places you can’t see.

It is well past time for new technology in airframe manufacture.


50 posted on 09/18/2007 12:55:39 PM PDT by NY.SS-Bar9 (DR #1692)
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