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To: Coyoteman
Sorry, no attempt was made to discredit either field. ...You jumped the shark with that one. Is that philosophy or theology or one of those squishy fields?

Sorry then, I thought you were indeed trying to discredit the entire fields of philosophy and theology. I took your point in the context that you were reading along the debate I was having with others, who were attempting to discredit the entire fields in order to discredit a particular argument.

I am not a theologian of any kind, nor do I play one on TV.

I am greatly relieved. Then you didn't meant that heretical doctrine about some magical first coyote creating the very first bear seriously. Its so obvious that the noble bear came first among all the animals ;-)

250 posted on 09/25/2007 6:39:02 PM PDT by AndyTheBear (Disastrous social experimentation is the opiate of elitist snobs.)
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To: AndyTheBear
Then you didn't meant that heretical doctrine about some magical first coyote creating the very first bear seriously. Its so obvious that the noble bear came first among all the animals ;-)

Bear? HA!

Here's how it was. You see a bear in there anywhere?


The Creation of Men and Women

When the world was finished, there were as yet no people, but the Bald Eagle was chief of the animals. He saw that the world was incomplete and decided to make some human beings. So he took some clay and modeled the figure of a man and laid him on the ground. At first he was very small but he grew rapidly until he reached normal size. But as yet he had no life; he was still asleep. Then the Bald Eagle stood and admired his work. "It is impossible," he said, "that he should be left alone; he must have a mate." So he pulled out a feather and laid it beside the sleeping man. Then he left them and went off a short distance, for he knew that a woman was being formed from the feather. But the man was still asleep and did not know what was happening. When the Bald Eagle decided that the woman was about completed, he returned, awoke the man by flapping his wings over him and flew away.

The man opened his eyes and stared at the woman. "What does this mean?" he asked. "I thought I was alone!" Then the Bald Eagle returned and said with a smile, "I see you have a mate! Have you had intercourse with her?" "No," replied he man, for he and the woman knew nothing about each other. Then the Bald Eagle called to Coyote who happened to be going by and said to him, "Do you see that woman? Try her first!" Coyote was quite willing and complied, but immediately afterwards lay down and died. The Bald Eagle went away and left Coyote dead, but presently returned and revived him. "How did it work?" said the Bald Eagle. "Pretty well, but it nearly kills a man!" replied Coyote. "Will you try it again?" said the Bald Eagle. Coyote agreed, and tried again, and this time survived. Then the Bald Eagle turned to the man and said, "She is all right now; you and she are to live together.

California Indian creation story


251 posted on 09/25/2007 6:44:13 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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