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Abizaid: World Could Abide Nuclear Iran
AP ^ | Sept 17 2007 | AP

Posted on 09/17/2007 10:29:06 PM PDT by freedomdefender

Every effort should be made to stop Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons, but failing that, the world could live with a nuclear-armed regime in Tehran, a recently retired commander of U.S. forces in the Middle East said Monday.

John Abizaid, the retired Army general who headed Central Command for nearly four years, said he was confident that if Iran gained nuclear arms, the United States could deter it from using them.

"Iran is not a suicide nation," he said. "I mean, they may have some people in charge that don't appear to be rational, but I doubt that the Iranians intend to attack us with a nuclear weapon."

The Iranians are aware, he said, that the United States has a far superior military capability.

"I believe that we have the power to deter Iran, should it become nuclear," he said, referring to the theory that Iran would not risk a catastrophic retaliatory strike by using a nuclear weapon against the United States.

"There are ways to live with a nuclear Iran," Abizaid said in remarks at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, a think tank. "Let's face it, we lived with a nuclear Soviet Union, we've lived with a nuclear China, and we're living with (other) nuclear powers as well."

He stressed that he was expressing his personal opinion and that none of his remarks were based on his previous experience with U.S. contingency plans for potential military action against Iran.

Abizaid stressed the dangers of allowing more and more nations to build a nuclear arsenal. And while he said it is likely that Iran will make a technological breakthrough to obtain a nuclear bomb, "it's not inevitable."

Iran says its nuclear program is strictly for energy resources, not to build weapons.

Abizaid suggested military action to pre-empt Iran's nuclear ambitions might not be the wisest course.

"War, in the state-to-state sense, in that part of the region would be devastating for everybody, and we should avoid it — in my mind — to every extent that we can," he said. "On the other hand, we can't allow the Iranians to continue to push in ways that are injurious to our vital interests."

He suggested that many in Iran — perhaps even some in the Tehran government — are open to cooperating with the West. The thrust of his remarks was a call for patience in dealing with Iran, which President Bush early in his first term labeled one of the "axis of evil" nations, along with North Korea and Iraq.

He said there is a basis for hope that Iran, over time, will move away from its current anti-Western stance.

Abizaid's comments appeared to represent a more accommodating and hopeful stance toward Iran than prevails in the White House, which speaks frequently of the threat posed by Iran's nuclear ambitions. The administration says it seeks a diplomatic solution to complaints about Iran's alleged support for terrorism and its nuclear program, amid persistent rumors of preparations for a U.S. military strike.

Abizaid expressed confidence that the United States and the world community can manage the Iran problem.

"I believe the United States, with our great military power, can contain Iran — that the United States can deliver clear messages to the Iranians that makes it clear to them that while they may develop one or two nuclear weapons they'll never be able to compete with us in our true military might and power," he said.

He described Iran's government as reckless, with ambitions to dominate the Middle East.

"We need to press the international community as hard as we possibly can, and the Iranians, to cease and desist on the development of a nuclear weapon and we should not preclude any option that we may have to deal with it," he said. He then added his remark about finding ways to live with a nuclear-armed Iran.

Abizaid made his remarks in response to questions from his audience after delivering remarks about the major strategic challenges in the Middle East and Central Asia — the region in which he commanded U.S. forces from July 2003 until February 2007, when he was replaced by Adm. William Fallon.

The U.S. cut diplomatic relations with Iran shortly after the 1979 storming of the U.S. Embassy in Tehran. Although both nations have made public and private attempts to improve relations, the Bush administration labeled Iran part of an "axis of evil," and Iranian leaders still refer to the United States as the Great Satan.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: abizaid; ahmadinejad; appeasement; capitulation; nevillechamberlain; spartansixdelta; surrender
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To: KTM rider
Abazaid is a darling poster child of the "anti war" movement.... he has a long history iof this, add to that he is of questionable patriotic character in my book, seeing he is a first generation import from Saudi Arabia !

He's a general in the same military as Petraeus. Why is it ok to call him names, but it's unpatriotic to call Petraeus names? Actually, I believe it's not "unpatriotic" to question ANY military man, including Petraeus. They're government workers, and I don't take any government employee's word as gospel without independent verification.

41 posted on 09/18/2007 11:38:45 AM PDT by freedomdefender
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To: freedomdefender
sorry, I apologize to you and Gen Abaziad, my information was false here is a link to the abazaid profile ....... john abazaid

however, it still makes me paranoid

42 posted on 09/18/2007 11:45:01 AM PDT by KTM rider ("global warming": the greatest socialist toll since " the children")
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To: freedomdefender

What world is he talking about? surely not this one.


43 posted on 09/18/2007 12:54:05 PM PDT by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE)
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To: freedomdefender

Only Moveon calls them liars and traitors. Big difference.


44 posted on 09/18/2007 12:59:31 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: Almondjoy

Excellent post.


45 posted on 09/18/2007 1:02:14 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: freedomdefender

This guy was the man in charge for four years......maybe he’s a big reason why we haven’t finished the job yet!!


46 posted on 09/18/2007 1:08:50 PM PDT by kenmcg
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
Only Moveon calls them liars and traitors. Big difference.

Moveon called Petraeus a juvenile name, like some of the posters here are doing with this general. Different ideologies, same tactic.

47 posted on 09/18/2007 1:45:36 PM PDT by freedomdefender
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To: KTM rider
Thank you for correcting the original information. Far too often misinformation is left to fester and/or float through the information channels causing huge problems.

Since I am on the thread,I would like to ask fellow Freepers to try to recall the last time any sane person or even more to the point,group of same persons,almost to a man believed that any ugly,miserable situation was the fault of one person or one side exclusively.

Reading articles and comments from Israeli-Jews in Israel sources,demonstrate that there is much more diversity of thought vis-a-vis the Mideast situation over there than over here. I would think that should cause some serious revisiting of the state of affairs.

48 posted on 09/18/2007 2:33:24 PM PDT by saradippity
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To: freedomdefender

I’m sorry,since you posted the thread I should have pinged you to my comment #48. Consider yourself pinged.


49 posted on 09/18/2007 2:35:23 PM PDT by saradippity
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To: freedomdefender
“Hey, I thought only Moveon critizes U.S. generals.”

There is nothing wrong with criticizing retired generals who are giving personal opinions. What Moveon did was call the general in charge of a current war a traitor. There is a big distinction.

50 posted on 09/18/2007 4:12:04 PM PDT by HwyChile
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To: freedomdefender
John Abizaid, the retired Army general who headed Central Command
for nearly four years, said he was confident that if Iran gained
nuclear arms, the United States could deter it from using them.


Well, the good General might do a real service by just being
more direct:

"Radical Islam, partially embodied by today's Iran, is the new Communism.
We need to get down to work with deciding how to spend the next
couple of decades, containing the enemy and slowly helping them
onto the ash-heap of history."

Sometimes you just have to say it out loud, sir!
51 posted on 09/18/2007 4:18:04 PM PDT by VOA
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To: VOA

As far as I know, Gen. Abizaid is not running for President. Duncan Hunter is. He has the experience and wisdom to weigh all information and make the correct decision. I trust him absolutely to do this. I believe the military commanders will trust him also.


52 posted on 09/18/2007 4:49:02 PM PDT by buckeye49 (DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT '08)
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To: nathanbedford; freema

I second all you had to say in post #17. Your thought process put to the pen describes in essence how I view the issues revolving around their nuclear program.


53 posted on 09/18/2007 4:50:52 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Duncan Hunter for POTUS)
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To: freedomdefender
Abizaid is a member of the 'Rat-dominated Council on Foreign Relations.

2006 Council on Foreign Relations Membership Roster

54 posted on 09/18/2007 4:56:55 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
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To: Marine_Uncle; nathanbedford

Thanks for the ping and the comments!


55 posted on 09/18/2007 6:48:39 PM PDT by freema
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To: freema

Your welcome.


56 posted on 09/19/2007 2:29:09 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Duncan Hunter for POTUS)
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