Posted on 09/17/2007 11:13:01 AM PDT by dangus
The temperature of the ocean has cooled 0.2 degrees C in the past few of years, and is now only 0.1 degrees C warmer than it was throughout much of 1944. This data set had been showing a general warming trend since the late 1970s, (as well as a warming trend from the 1910s through the mid 1940s) with the warmest time being recorded in the El Nino year of 1998.
Despite temperatures peaking in 1998, it's been reasonable to describe the temperature trend as continuing, since 1998 at the time was a flukishly hot spell. Since 1998, the "normal" trend line approached what had been flukishly warm.
The reversal to cooler temperatures is not yet long or strong enough to discredit global warming completely... by a long shot. However, global warming alarmists had been warning that global warming had dramatically accelerated in the past couple decades; although ocean temperatures had risen a mere degree over the last century, the alarmists had warned of an increasing rate of warming, or even an increasing rate of an increasing rate of warming, suggesting the next century could see temperatures increase by several degrees.
Although this data is still consistent with a long, gradual trend of increasing ocean temperatures, it is not consistent with any sudden accelerations in warming trends.
My source is a data table at the NOAA, which could not be linked to directly, since it is available over file transfer protocol (FTP), not hypertext transfer protocol (HTTP). This is the link: ftp://ftp.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/anomalies/monthly.ocean.90S.90N.df_1901-2000mean.dat It may be accessed from the bottom of the page I linked to in the source field, under "The Monthly Global Ocean Temperature Anomalies (degrees C)." My source is purely the data; the web page from which I derived it has not been updated to reflect any updated data.
It was my fault. We haven’t been fishing much this summer. My wife’s been sick. Maybe I can warm up the waters with a new boat?.................
“Also, it seems like the “normal” trend is approaching the abnormal or “flukish” range, which seems — shall we say — odd.”
Come on: To be fair, I was referring to what HAD been abnormal, and seemed to be becoming normal.
These scientists claiming that ocean temps are dropping are NOT on the ball here. What they should be doing is claiming that there is a process of "Global Ocean Temp Change" (man-induced) going on. This in turn is driving "Global Climate Change". That way, they are covered for the following four cases:
1. Ocean temps rise causes global warming, or
2. Ocean temps rise causes global cooling, or
3. Ocean temps fall causes global warming, or
4. Ocean temps fall causes global cooling.
Gotta cover your bases if you want to continue your grant research!
yeah, check out the La Nina almost reaching Australia. The wierd part: La Ninas normally form as the rebound of an El Nino. There wasn’t much of an El Nino before this La Nina.
How arrogant of you Owl_Eagle!
Everyone knows it's because I'm taking shorter showers and only buying local produce.
Global Oceans colder ! !
Really? Has the ice pack in what is about to become a usable NorthWest Passage been memoed?
You might want to drive an old pickup on the weekends or something, before we're shoveling snow in August.
Opposite here in the keys
Oh come on now! Us Global Warming experts KNOW that part of the effects of global warming are the world’s oceans getting colder...............
Check out the map in post # 29.
My God, that’s ridiculous! Is that in a textbook???
I just compared 9/17 to 8/16. It’s tough to eyeball these things, but I’d say it’s fair to conclude that September is shaping up to be at least as cool, wouldn’t you?
“Where are all the hurricanes this year”
Not to sound like I believe in this global warming #!*ap.
We just had two that hit Mexico and Hondouras.
One was a class FIVE.
Hurricane ANDREW was a class five when it hit south FL.
Installation of a huge swimming pool heater will cure this problem
Yes but the fish wont like it
The simple response from the liberals is: “Bush is fudging the numbers”.
The colder it is, the more CO2 it can absorb.
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