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Immigration Activists Clash At So. Calif. Church
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Posted on 09/17/2007 7:28:58 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

Immigration Activists Clash At So. Calif. Church CBS News Interactive: Immigration and Naturalization

(AP) SIMI VALLEY, Calif. Dozens of activists on both sides of the illegal immigration debate faced off outside a church where an illegal immigrant is being sheltered with her U.S.-born infant son.

One immigrant-rights advocate was injured with a chemical spray during Sunday's confrontation at the United Church of Christ, and police were investigating allegations that an opposing protester was responsible, police Capt. John McGinty said.

Members of the anti-illegal immigration group Save Our State, which organized the rally that drew about 120 protesters and counter-protesters, said they had hoped to make a citizen's arrest of the woman, who has identified herself only as Liliana.

The woman has been living in the church's former parsonage as part of the New Sanctuary Movement, which arranges church accommodations for illegal immigrants in the U.S.

Group members shouted for Liliana, who lived in Oxnard before taking shelter at the church, to give herself up.

"I'm here because I'm for the movement for the illegals to go home," protester Dee Barrow said.

(Excerpt) Read more at wcbstv.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; illegalaliens; illegalalienthugs; immigrantlist; liliana; religiousleft; sanctuary; thugs4illegals; thugs4invasion; ucc
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1 posted on 09/17/2007 7:29:00 AM PDT by Sub-Driver
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It’s time we started making the churches in this country pay their fair share of taxes. We could eliminate payroll taxes entirely with just the property taxes of the Catholic Church alone.


2 posted on 09/17/2007 7:45:23 AM PDT by anonsquared
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It’s time we started making the churches in this country pay their fair share of taxes.

That's a very liberal thought you've had there.

3 posted on 09/17/2007 7:49:53 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: anonsquared
"It’s time we started making the churches in this country pay their fair share of taxes. "

They certainly should lose their exempt status if they take an active stand on political/legal issues. Especially if they are promoting illegal activity.

4 posted on 09/17/2007 7:50:41 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: anonsquared
It’s time we started making the churches in this country pay their fair share of taxes.

Hey Troll, This is FREE REPUBLIC!

5 posted on 09/17/2007 7:55:15 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: Sub-Driver
If Liliana waits long enough, she'll be back in Mexico without even moving.


6 posted on 09/17/2007 8:42:15 AM PDT by Travis McGee (--www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com--)
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To: Sub-Driver

Oh Jeez, another one.


7 posted on 09/17/2007 8:53:07 AM PDT by freekitty (May the eagles long fly over our beautiful and free American sky.)
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8 posted on 09/17/2007 9:11:09 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: anonsquared

Cannot tax a right, especially something that’s normally interpreted as being covered by the First amendment.


9 posted on 09/17/2007 9:31:30 AM PDT by djf (Send Fred some bread! Not a whole loaf, a slice or two will do!)
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To: anonsquared
It’s time we started making the churches in this country pay their fair share of taxes. We could eliminate payroll taxes entirely with just the property taxes of the Catholic Church alone.

Yeah, like the government will really eliminate taxes in one area if they get an income stream from another sector. It'll just happily spend even more money, and the new burden on churches will only further consolidate governmental power in education and charity.

10 posted on 09/17/2007 10:26:43 AM PDT by Dumb_Ox (http://kevinjjones.blogspot.com)
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To: Travis McGee

There must be 25,000 illegals in Oxnard alone.


11 posted on 09/17/2007 11:44:46 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: Sub-Driver

Simi Valley is an odd place for a church to harbor an illegal. It is very conservative, and thousands of cops live there.


12 posted on 09/17/2007 11:46:36 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: anonsquared

“We could eliminate payroll taxes entirely with just the property taxes of the Catholic Church alone.”

That’s a pretty big claim. Care to back it up with details and facts?


13 posted on 09/17/2007 11:49:08 AM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: Balding_Eagle
I think churches which advocate a political agenda should be subjected to a tax just like any other political action group.

This particular church should have all its assets seized and the clergymen involved in aiding and abetting the violation of U.S. law prosecuted as Federal Statute requires. And that is conservative thinking, not liberal thinking.

14 posted on 09/17/2007 8:32:39 PM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: Travis McGee
One immigrant-rights advocate was injured with a chemical spray during Sunday's confrontation at the United Church of Christ, and police were investigating allegations that an opposing protester was responsible

Nice touch.

L

15 posted on 09/17/2007 8:38:55 PM PDT by Lurker ( Comparing moderate islam to extremist islam is like comparing smallpox to ebola.)
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To: Lurker

Kind of probing each other, prior to escalation of violence.


16 posted on 09/18/2007 4:57:13 AM PDT by Travis McGee (--www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com--)
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To: anonsquared

Kinda idiotic, don’t ya think.....or maybe just a tad anti-Catholic is what you aimed at.


17 posted on 09/18/2007 4:58:28 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy (Hillary '08...Her PHONINESS is REAL!!!)
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To: anonsquared

Once the Churches pay property taxes, they should also be allowed to criminalize any antichristian activity and incarcerate all the atheists in government, as well as being given the right to determine civil law within the country. This would include exercising capital punishment on Wiccans and other witches.


18 posted on 09/18/2007 5:06:05 AM PDT by Cvengr (The violence of evil is met with the violence of righteousness, justice, love and grace.)
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To: Travis McGee
where an illegal immigrant is being sheltered with her U.S.-born infant son.

Can any one say "aiding and abetting"?

L

19 posted on 09/18/2007 6:48:59 AM PDT by Lurker ( Comparing moderate islam to extremist islam is like comparing smallpox to ebola.)
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To: Suzy Quzy; Sub-Driver; Balding_Eagle; moehoward; djf; Dumb_Ox; P-Marlowe

For the record - I’m Catholic. And also for the record I am for religion just not for business masquerading as religion. I think ALL churches, not just Catholic churches, should pay property taxes and corporate taxes.

Take a good look at them, THEY ARE BUSINESSES. If they were walking the walk then government would have never been able to get a toehold in the charity business and we wouldn’t be taxed to death to pay for it. A true separation of church and state would be churches in the charity business and government out of the charity business.

Churches/organized religion should be feeding the hungry, housing the homeless and helping those in need. That is what their nonprofit status is supposed to be for. Instead they are always trying to build bigger and more grandiose buildings than the church down the block. Every minister and priest in my county is driving around in a brand new SUV or luxury car. So much for the vow of poverty. They are businesses and nothing more and should be taxed as such. End of sermon.


20 posted on 09/18/2007 11:38:30 AM PDT by anonsquared
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