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Hillary Slayer ... (a battle Giuliani was born to fight)
American Spectator ^ | 9/17/2007 | Philip Klein

Posted on 09/17/2007 5:11:52 AM PDT by IrishMike

As one of his supporters, actor Robert Duvall, might say: Rudy played this one beautifully.

Last week, all Republican politicians worth their weight came out blasting MoveOn.org for taking out a full-page ad in the New York Times smearing Gen. David Petraeus on the day he was scheduled to deliver his Iraq progress report to Congress. The outrage among conservatives only grew as leading Democrats failed to condemn the ad, Hillary Clinton questioned the general's honesty, and it was disclosed that the far left group was given a drastically reduced advertising rate in the New York Times.

But while other Republicans complained, Rudy Giuliani did something about it. Speaking to reporters in Atlanta on Thursday, Giuliani demanded that the New York Times give his campaign the same discounted rate so it could take out an ad defending Gen. Petraeus and assailing Clinton and MoveOn.org for "character assassination of an American general in a time of war." He also called on the paper to run the ad at the time of his choosing (Friday, the day after President Bush's primetime address to the nation).

The next morning, American liberals had to spit out their soy milk while reading their paper of record over breakfast.

(Excerpt) Read more at spectator.org ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; autocrat; clinton; democrats; electionpresident; elections; giuliani; gungrabbingrino; hillary; hobsonschoice; julieannie; rino; rinorudy; rudy; rudyequalshillary
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To: IrishMike
Hillary Slayer ... (a battle Giuliani was born to fight)

Not quite.

He had his chance in 2000, but he dropped out. Had he stayed in and won, Hillary Clinton would be nothing more than a footnote in the annals of political wannabes, alongside Geraldine Ferraro.

Instead, Giuliani dropped out of the Senate race and gave rise to the monster.

[footnote: John Kerry also had prostate cancer just months before he managed to mount a run for the presidency. Giuliani dropped out in the spring (April, IIRC), but did not enter a treatment facility until late summer/early fall (IIRC).]
41 posted on 09/17/2007 6:23:36 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Roccus
As a NYer born under LaGuardia and who finally left under Bloomberg, who worked in the streets, backyards, basements and on the rooftops, day and night in Harlem, el Barrio, Washington Heights and the South Bronx for the last year and a half of Dinkins and the first six of Rudy, I’ve come to one conclusion. If Rudy could do for the country just half of what he did for the city, Americans would be pretty happy.

I was born under Impellitteri but Wagner is the first mayor I can remember.

I was born in Brooklyn, lived in Manhattan 1976-79, and left right before Dinkens.

It's an f'ing MIRACLE what Rudy did, and the idea that Hillary would have done 10% of what Rudy did, or that they are basically the same, is just ridiculous.

42 posted on 09/17/2007 6:25:29 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Trails of troubles, roads of battle, paths of victory we shall walk.)
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To: Squantos
Remind me to never get on your bad side........

LOL----you could never do that.

However, those who have, NEVER forget the experience.

43 posted on 09/17/2007 6:29:59 AM PDT by Liz (It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong. Voltaire)
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To: IrishMike
Giuliani demanded that the New York Times give his campaign the same discounted rate


I Want The Same Rate Honey
Or I'll Scream Sexism!!!

Who gives a rat's patoot what a lisping cross dresser has to say.

44 posted on 09/17/2007 6:36:21 AM PDT by Condor51 (Rudy makes John Kerry look like a Right Wing 'Gun Nut' Extremist)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
There will be NO Ross Perot to foul us up this go round!!

Don't bet the farm on that yet.

If it appears that Hillary needs an extra boost, it is quite possible for MoveOn or Soros or other Clintonites to find someone to run who might take away some of the GOP/Independent vote from the Republicans. They took down Rep. Curt Weldon. They are capable of doing many covert things to get Hillary Clinton to the Oval Office.
45 posted on 09/17/2007 6:38:12 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Jim Noble

I may vote for Rudy in the General Election (probably but not 100% sure of that), but will fight to my last breath make sure the choice is NOT....Rudy.

We stand to loose as much if not more in some ways under Rudy.....

Fred can and will beat the Hildabeastie.


46 posted on 09/17/2007 6:38:15 AM PDT by Vaquero (" an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein "MOLON LABE!" Leonidas of Sparta)
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To: Condor51
I Want The Same Rate Honey Or I'll Scream Sexism!!!

Sexism only exists if there are people of both sexes involved.....(LOL)


47 posted on 09/17/2007 6:43:18 AM PDT by Vaquero (" an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein "MOLON LABE!" Leonidas of Sparta)
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To: Jim Noble

Didn’t he refuse a check from a moslim dictator, was it the the saudi’s? after 9/11?


48 posted on 09/17/2007 6:44:22 AM PDT by thirst4truth
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To: TomGuy
John Kerry also had prostate cancer just months before he managed to mount a run for the presidency. Giuliani dropped out in the spring (April, IIRC), but did not enter a treatment facility until late summer/early fall (IIRC)

There are several different options for treating prostate cancer. One is the one Kerry opted for--surgery. Giuliani chose a different option to treatment which involved a three step approach. He began the third phase in late November.

Mr. Giuliani announced April 27 that he had prostate cancer in an early, treatable form. Three weeks later, citing his illness, he withdrew from the Senate race. He also began preliminary hormone treatments to lower the levels of prostate-specific antigens in his blood. In September he underwent the implantation of radioactive seeds in his prostate gland.

Mr. Giuliani's doctors had said that the seeds would emit radiation for about two months, after which a third phase of treatment, the external beam radiation, would begin. The goal of the second and third phases is to eradicate the cancer.

Giuliani Starts Final Phase of Cancer Treatment

49 posted on 09/17/2007 6:46:35 AM PDT by elli1
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To: thirst4truth
&tDidn’t he refuse a check from a moslim dictator, was it the the saudi’s? after 9/11?

A snot-nosed Saudi prince oozed over to City Hall and offered Rudy a ten million dollar check, I suppose in recognition that the terrorists were almost all from the Kingdom.

Of course, the prince had to make a few remarks, among which were that fact that it was America's support of Israel that made his little people so upset.

Hizzoner then handind him back the check, said, ;thanks, but no thanks", humiliating him and his masters in front of the national and world press.

I've never seen a US politician who cared less about the New York press, when that press was in a position to hurt him.

50 posted on 09/17/2007 6:49:08 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Trails of troubles, roads of battle, paths of victory we shall walk.)
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To: counterpunch

-come ON, Rudy DID\ run against the beast for the Senate seat - he just dropped out before she beat him.


51 posted on 09/17/2007 6:49:08 AM PDT by tioga
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To: counterpunch
I would have agreed with this article had Rudy fulfilled his true destiny, which was to run against Hillary for the Senate last election. Then we wouldn’t have to be having this discussion about vanquishing her in the presidential race.

EXACTLY!!

He could have done his state, his Party and his country a GREAT SERVICE by removing Hillary from the Senate last November.

He could have kept control of the Senate for the Republicans, seriously damaged Hillary's Presidential ambitions, and likely helped his (at least with some conservatives) by removing her from the Senate in the liberal state that knows him best, and loves him.

He can spare us his LIBERAL efforts now!

52 posted on 09/17/2007 6:55:24 AM PDT by stockstrader (We need a conservative nominee who will UNITE the Party, not a liberal one who will DIVIDE it!)
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To: counterpunch
would have agreed with this article had Rudy fulfilled his true destiny, which was to run against Hillary for the Senate last election.

True, but he ran from that fight with his tail between his legs.

He's no "Hillary Slayer." He's a wimp, who'll get eaten alive if he has to stand up to her.

53 posted on 09/17/2007 7:03:22 AM PDT by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The Clinton’s should get only about 10% of this country’s vote, modern day citizens are a disgrace.

I’d guess there are only about 30% of real Americans left in this country.

54 posted on 09/17/2007 7:04:03 AM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: tioga
Didn’t he drop out for his cancer surgery?
55 posted on 09/17/2007 7:07:30 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Ditter

Yep, fastest recovery in history. He would have lost anyway. He got a double recovery with that one illness.


56 posted on 09/17/2007 7:10:51 AM PDT by tioga
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To: tioga
I was very disappointed that he didn’t kick hillary’s a$$ but I am not a NYer and don’t keep up with ya’ll but are you saying that Rudy didn’t really have cancer?
57 posted on 09/17/2007 7:15:25 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Ditter; tioga

Nobody questions that Rooty Toot had cancer. But many think he used it as an excuse to drop out of the race because he knew he would lose. There is NO evidence that suggests that the cancer interfered with his abilities to run for office.

Moreover, if as the Rooty Rooter claim, Rooty Toot is the “only one who can beat Hillary,” why didn’t he do it LAST YEAR?


58 posted on 09/17/2007 7:33:34 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

I agree. I have her thighness as my state senator NOW and I do blame Rudy for chickening out during that attempt. I do not believe for one minute that Rudy can beat hillary.


59 posted on 09/17/2007 7:38:44 AM PDT by tioga
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To: Ditter

NO, Rudy had cancer. BUT, he used it to get out of a losing senatorial race. The new guy couldn’t get any traction and she sailed into office. America forgets that he had a shot at hillary and dropped out once already.


60 posted on 09/17/2007 7:40:16 AM PDT by tioga
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