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To: happinesswithoutpeace
So how does this work? They keep it in their cruiser rack and deploy it when needed? Or go to every disturbing the peace call with a two point sling and 5.56 chest rig?

Found this article online at the POLICE Magazine web site:

Fighting with a Carbine

It’s not enough to have a patrol rifle in your trunk; you need to train to shoot it fast and on target.

by R.K. Campbell

Old West sheriffs and marshals often carried a Colt .45 called the Peacemaker. But that .45 had the limitations of all handguns, so savvy Western lawmen also kept a short-barreled repeating rifle like a Winchester in their saddle bags. They knew that in a real gunfight, a carbine is the real “peace maker.”

Today, cops are putting carbines back in their saddle bags, uh…the trunks of their patrol cars.

A number of critical events in the past 10 years have made the patrol carbine a desirable complement to the peace officer’s pistol and shotgun. The complacent era in which police officers patrolled only with a pistol started to come to an end in the fire and smoke of such infamous incidents as North Hollywood and Columbine.

A lot of police agencies also started adding rifles or pistol-caliber carbines to their lists of approved tools following the 9/11 attacks. After all, it’s likely that if terrorists engage in a firefight with American police officers that they will be very well armed, possibly outfitted with body armor, and capable of firing accurately at more than 100 yards. As we all know, a pistol would be next to useless in such a long-range fight against armored subjects.

There are those who say that the need for a rifle in patrol operations is easy to overstate and that it’s likely to sit in the trunk a long time before you use it. They’re pretty much right. But here’s the counter to that argument. When you need a rifle on patrol, you need it really badly. And you and the public you serve would be endangered because you don’t have one...

Rest of article at

http://www.policemag.com/Articles/2006/05/Fighting-with-a-Carbine.aspx

21 posted on 09/16/2007 11:33:35 PM PDT by Screaming_Gerbil (Let's Roll...)
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To: Screaming_Gerbil
As we all know, a pistol would be next to useless in such a long-range fight against armored subjects.

As would many pistol-cartridge carbines...

If one is going to carry in the trunk, it doesn't make a lot of sense to me to have a carbine, but of course, that depends on the jurisdiction.

23 posted on 09/17/2007 1:15:48 AM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Screaming_Gerbil

The writer doesn’t know the difference between a saddle bag and a rifle scabbard.

Most old time sheriffs carried a Colt but it was in 44-40 so the Winchester and the revolver could share ammunition.

I’m not comfortable with city cops carrying rifles with thirty round mags. I think they should train with their shotguns and use slugs.


34 posted on 09/17/2007 5:53:58 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Hunter '08)
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To: Screaming_Gerbil

Thanks for that link.


50 posted on 09/17/2007 1:35:09 PM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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