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Bush setting America up for war with Iran
Telegraph ^ | 09/17/07 | By Philip Sherwell in New York and Tim Shipman in Washington

Posted on 09/16/2007 7:21:08 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

Bush setting America up for war with Iran


By Philip Sherwell in New York and Tim Shipman in Washington
Last Updated: 2:29am BST 17/09/2007

Senior American intelligence and defence officials believe that President George W Bush and his inner circle are taking steps to place America on the path to war with Iran, The Sunday Telegraph has learnt.

 
Dick Cheney ('The Man') with George W Bush
Dick Cheney ('The Man') with George W Bush

Pentagon planners have developed a list of up to 2,000 bombing targets in Iran, amid growing fears among serving officers that diplomatic efforts to slow Iran's nuclear weapons programme are doomed to fail.

Pentagon and CIA officers say they believe that the White House has begun a carefully calibrated programme of escalation that could lead to a military showdown with Iran.

Now it has emerged that Condoleezza Rice, the secretary of state, who has been pushing for a diplomatic solution, is prepared to settle her differences with Vice-President Dick Cheney and sanction military action.

In a chilling scenario of how war might come, a senior intelligence officer warned that public denunciation of Iranian meddling in Iraq - arming and training militants - would lead to cross border raids on Iranian training camps and bomb factories.

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A prime target would be the Fajr base run by the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Quds Force in southern Iran, where Western intelligence agencies say armour-piercing projectiles used against British and US troops are manufactured.

Under the theory - which is gaining credence in Washington security circles - US action would provoke a major Iranian response, perhaps in the form of moves to cut off Gulf oil supplies, providing a trigger for air strikes against Iran's nuclear facilities and even its armed forces.

Senior officials believe Mr Bush's inner circle has decided he does not want to leave office without first ensuring that Iran is not capable of developing a nuclear weapon.

The intelligence source said: "No one outside that tight circle knows what is going to happen." But he said that within the CIA "many if not most officials believe that diplomacy is failing" and that "top Pentagon brass believes the same".

He said: "A strike will probably follow a gradual escalation. Over the next few weeks and months the US will build tensions and evidence around Iranian activities in Iraq."

 
Possible flash points:

Previously, accusations that Mr Bush was set on war with Iran have come almost entirely from his critics.

Many senior operatives within the CIA are highly critical of Mr Bush's handling of the Iraq war, though they themselves are considered ineffective and unreliable by hardliners close to Mr Cheney.

The vice president is said to advocate the use of bunker-busting tactical nuclear weapons against Iran's nuclear sites. His allies dispute this, but Mr Cheney is understood to be lobbying for air strikes if sites can be identified where Revolutionary Guard units are training Shia militias.

Recent developments over Iraq appear to fit with the pattern of escalation predicted by Pentagon officials.

Gen David Petraeus, Mr Bush's senior Iraq commander, denounced the Iranian "proxy war" in Iraq last week as he built support in Washington for the US military surge in Baghdad.

The US also announced the creation of a new base near the Iraqi border town of Badra, the first of what could be several locations to tackle the smuggling of weapons from Iran.

A State Department source familiar with White House discussions said that Miss Rice, under pressure from senior counter-proliferation officials to acknowledge that military action may be necessary, is now working with Mr Cheney to find a way to reconcile their positions and present a united front to the President.

The source said: "When you go down there and see the body language, you can see that Cheney is still The Man. Condi pushed for diplomacy but she is no dove. If it becomes necessary she will be on board.

 


"Both of them are very close to the president, and where they differ they are working together to find a way to present a position they can both live with."

The official contrasted the efforts of the secretary of state to work with the vice-president with the "open warfare between Colin Powell and Donald Rumsfeld before the Iraq war".

Miss Rice's bottom line is that if the administration is to go to war again it must build the case over a period of months and win sufficient support on Capitol Hill.

The Sunday Telegraph has been told that Mr Bush has privately promised her that he would consult "meaningfully" with Congressional leaders of both parties before any military action against Iran on the understanding that Miss Rice would resign if this did not happen.

The intelligence officer said that the US military has "two major contingency plans" for air strikes on Iran.

"One is to bomb only the nuclear facilities. The second option is for a much bigger strike that would - over two or three days - hit all of the significant military sites as well. This plan involves more than 2,000 targets."



TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: airstrikes; bush; fajr; iran; iraniannukes; preemption; tlr; war
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To: TigerLikesRooster; Dog; section9; Allegra; Marine_Uncle; Lazamataz; Rokke

I don’t see it going down like that.

I’d say that there will be an international consensus, with or without the UN/NATO, for a blockade to enforce sanctions against Iran.

Now, if Iran attacks our blockade...well...let’s just say that we’ll have to respond to defend ourselves.


21 posted on 09/16/2007 7:37:51 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: mamelukesabre

But the ayatollahs have religious obligations to meet. They’ll be picking off targets.


22 posted on 09/16/2007 7:38:26 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Calpernia
I'm surprised those persian mohammedan mongrels think they can kill out troops without consequence.

There is still a Republican in the White House for the next 15 months.

Their medling is a direct result of the rat takeover of Congress, they think Bush won't pull the trigger.

They would be dead wrong.

23 posted on 09/16/2007 7:38:42 PM PDT by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: Texas Eagle

We don’t need evidence we need LEADERSHIP. Iran has been the number one terrorist sponsor for decades, its a LEADER with cojones to state the obvious and DAMN THE TORPEDOES.

Go WW2 on Iran!


24 posted on 09/16/2007 7:38:42 PM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: XenaLee
Look up Massive Ordanance Penatrator.

Where I work we call it Dial-a-Floor.

30,000 pounds and built to penetrate. This is just the publicity picture. The explosive has been tested and the penetrator itself verified.


25 posted on 09/16/2007 7:39:11 PM PDT by Pistolshot (Every woman, who can, should learn to shoot, and carry a gun.)
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To: TomasUSMC

Amen, bro.


26 posted on 09/16/2007 7:40:24 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Someone set us up the war?


27 posted on 09/16/2007 7:40:55 PM PDT by Nachoman (My guns and my ammo, they comfort me.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Why is this public information? Are they trying to force Iran to make a first strike?


28 posted on 09/16/2007 7:42:48 PM PDT by Paperdoll ( Vote for Duncan Hunter in the Primaries for America's sake!)
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To: Pistolshot

MOP & Glo.


29 posted on 09/16/2007 7:44:12 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: Paperdoll
Ecery time there is tension around the world we get these kinds of articles. Always someone knows 'something' of whats going on behind closed doors.

The fact is, if the President wants to hit Iran, he'd do it before letting anyone know it's going on. The War Powers Act allows him that leeway.

Also, the members of Congress who sit on Defense and Intelligence committees would know ahead of time.

30 posted on 09/16/2007 7:48:46 PM PDT by Pistolshot (Every woman, who can, should learn to shoot, and carry a gun.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

One good NNEMP and Tehran goes back to the stone age...


31 posted on 09/16/2007 7:49:02 PM PDT by TNPatriot (No arsenal ... is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women. -RR)
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To: muawiyah

I don’t think so. They want europe for themselves. They won’t poison the land for no reason. The nukes are for bargaining, or possible use against israel.

Our missile defense system is going in eastern europe so the iranians can’t pressure europe. We know europe is no good as an ally if they are doing whatever the iranians tell then to do...which is what will happen if iran has nukes and europe has no missile sheild.


32 posted on 09/16/2007 7:49:53 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: TigerLikesRooster

No, Condi. No UN and consensus building route this time.

Just do it.


33 posted on 09/16/2007 7:50:04 PM PDT by exit82 (Major General, Armchair Warriors USA)
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To: XenaLee

Yes we do. Lt. General McTierney (I think that is how you spell his name) said a few days ago we have a 30,000 lb mega bomb that can penetrate anything in Iran and their facilities can be breached by it.


34 posted on 09/16/2007 7:55:09 PM PDT by jrooney (The democrats are the friend of our enemy and the enemy of our friends. Attack them, not GW!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Bush setting America up for war with Iran

The headline is turned backwards. It is iran that is setting iran up for war with America.

35 posted on 09/16/2007 7:55:51 PM PDT by RobinOfKingston (Man, that's stupid...even by congressional standards.)
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To: RobinOfKingston
The headline is turned backwards. It is iran that is setting iran up for war with America.

Right you are Brave Sir Robin. Apparently the Ministry of Information has thrown all the stories of Iran's nuclear saber-rattling down The Memory Hole.

36 posted on 09/16/2007 7:59:02 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all.)
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To: exit82
No, Condi. No UN and consensus building route this time. Just do it.

And take the gloves off.

37 posted on 09/16/2007 8:02:21 PM PDT by Lijahsbubbe (I get enough exercise just pushing my luck)
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To: All

Headline = How ‘bout IRAN is setting up IRAN for war.


38 posted on 09/16/2007 8:04:57 PM PDT by NordP (No running or relenting. The problem will be dealt with. Decisively. Systematically. Permanently.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
>"Miss Rice's bottom line is that if the administration is to go to war again it must build the case over a period of months and win sufficient support on Capitol Hill. "

You mean the lying treasonous traitors, aka demos and rinos? They are only usefull for disinfo psyops.

What good is building a case? They just lie about it afterward. Feed em fishheads!!!

39 posted on 09/16/2007 8:07:02 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Did you know that everyday mexican gays sneak into this country and unplug our brain dead ladies HJS)
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To: XenaLee
Forgive my naivete, but how can we take out their nuke facilities if their facilities are underground and ergo, protected? Looks like the best we could do is poison the area around them for oh...say...100 years. Do we have anything other than nukes that could really destroy their underground nuke facilities?

The plan I have heard most often--Israel is said to be seriously considering it, if the US does not act first--is a two-step approach: 500- or 1,000-pound bunker-buster bombs, quickly followed by tactical nuclear weapons at the (already damaged) site.

I am certainly no expert on this subject; but it sounds like a workable plan to me.

40 posted on 09/16/2007 8:19:50 PM PDT by AmericanExceptionalist (Democrats believe in discussing the full spectrum of ideas, all the way from far left to center-left)
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