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Japanese Housewives Sweat in Secret as Markets Reel(subprime crisis wiped out housewife traders)
NYT ^ | 09/16/07 | MARTIN FACKLER

Posted on 09/16/2007 6:45:57 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

September 16, 2007

Japanese Housewives Sweat in Secret as Markets Reel

By MARTIN FACKLER

TOKYO, Sept. 15 — Since the credit crisis started shaking the world financial markets this summer, many professional traders have taken big losses. Another, less likely group of investors has, too: middle-class Japanese homemakers who moonlight as amateur currency speculators.

Ms. Itoh is one of them. Ms. Itoh, a homemaker in the central city of Nagoya, did not want her full name used because her husband still does not know. After cleaning the dinner dishes, she would spend her evenings buying and selling British pounds and Australian dollars.

When the turmoil struck the currency markets last month, Ms. Itoh spent a sleepless week as market losses wiped out her holdings. She lost nearly all her family’s $100,000 in savings.

“I wanted to add to our savings, but instead I got in over my head,” Ms. Itoh, 36, said.

Tens of thousands of married Japanese women ventured into online currency trading in the last year and a half, playing the markets between household chores or after tucking the children into bed. While the overwhelmingly male world of traders and investors here mocked them as kimono-clad “Mrs. Watanabes,” these women collectively emerged as a powerful force, using Japan’s vast wealth to sway prices and confound economists.

Many bought and sold stakes worth into the millions of dollars through margin trading, a potentially lucrative but risky form of trading that uses borrowed money.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Japan; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: currency; currencytrade; housewife; japan; mortgage; subprime; tlr
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Ko Sasaki for The New York Times

Mayumi Torii says she has earned $150,000 since she started trading in currencies last year.


1 posted on 09/16/2007 6:46:04 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster; sushiman; Ronin; AmericanInTokyo; gaijin; struggle; DTogo; GATOR NAVY; Iris7; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 09/16/2007 6:46:39 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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When the turmoil struck the currency markets last month, Ms. Itoh spent a sleepless week as market losses wiped out her holdings.

It's called a bubble. If you don't know that, you shouldn't be day trading.

3 posted on 09/16/2007 6:52:20 PM PDT by Free State Four
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To: TigerLikesRooster

everyone is sweating in Japan because they refuse to turn on the air conditioners because of global warming.


4 posted on 09/16/2007 6:53:53 PM PDT by ari-freedom (I am for traditional moral values, a strong national defense, and free markets.)
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Sounds like a lot of hari-kari going on around here.


5 posted on 09/16/2007 6:57:52 PM PDT by exit82 (Major General, Armchair Warriors USA)
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Or suicide by a subway train.:-)
6 posted on 09/16/2007 7:01:16 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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Surprising they lost money. One would think they would be long the Yen against the dollar. Doubt they would sell their own currency. Perhaps they were trading it against other currencies. I think the Yen was up against the Australian dollar too in recent weeks. That was the undoing of the GS Alpha fund.


7 posted on 09/16/2007 7:28:29 PM PDT by DemEater
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That’s funny (as in “odd”). I made a healthy profit just the other day playing the Y-D game, when the Yen went up to nearly 112.0.


8 posted on 09/16/2007 7:31:49 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Visit this thread 1-hour from now. In that time, an average of 416.6 more ILLEGALS will be in the US)
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To: Free State Four
It's called a bubble. If you don't know that, you shouldn't be day trading.

A currency bubble? You don't even know if she lost the money by being long or short, or on what currency.

9 posted on 09/16/2007 7:47:45 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
When the turmoil struck the currency markets last month, Ms. Itoh spent a sleepless week as market losses wiped out her holdings. She lost nearly all her family’s $100,000 in savings.

It's a lesson she'll never forget.

10 posted on 09/16/2007 7:49:27 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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She doesn’t look like she’s sweating! Anyway she needs to stick to the nickle machines, as in one arm bandits. Not much different than day trading.
11 posted on 09/16/2007 7:50:44 PM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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...housewife traders...

You can trade them? Why am I always the last to know?

13 posted on 09/16/2007 7:58:35 PM PDT by Libloather (That's just what I need - some two-bit, washed up, loser politician giving me weather forecasts...)
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Home-based stock market trading was a common thing amongst the spouses
of the Chinese grad students I knew.
Back in the 1990s.


14 posted on 09/16/2007 7:59:17 PM PDT by VOA
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Yep, wives can trade currencies, and husbands can trade their wives. Barter or sale for cash both acceptable.:-)/sarc
15 posted on 09/16/2007 8:04:48 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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Like Fred Schwed said in his classic “Where are all the customers’ yachts?”, margin trading can be like the innocent family who boarded the 20th Century Limited intending to get off and visit Grandma at 125th street and the next thing they knew they were going through Fort Wayne, Indiana at 75mph.


16 posted on 09/16/2007 8:08:08 PM PDT by NaughtiusMaximus ("The stool pigeon is the coming race." - Jack Black, <i>You Can't Win</i>)
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Ms. Itoh is one of them.

Is she any relation to C.Itoh? (that was a big Japanese crude trading firm back when I was in the business)

17 posted on 09/16/2007 8:11:30 PM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Withhold Taxes - Starve a Liberal)
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Itoh in Japan is as common as English name Taylor in U.S.
18 posted on 09/16/2007 8:20:04 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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I posted this link on a thread a few weeks ago. The article appeared on August 3, 2007, just before the sub-prime meltdown really got going...

The kimono traders (Japanese women currency traders)

19 posted on 09/16/2007 8:29:12 PM PDT by snarks_when_bored
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FYI, the woman featured in the photo above is Ko Sasaki.

Actually, I think the woman in the photo is Mayumi Torii.

20 posted on 09/16/2007 8:31:26 PM PDT by FoxInSocks
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