Posted on 09/16/2007 5:54:12 PM PDT by Grig
As an Episcopalian and member of All Saints in Fort Worth, Tx, I am not going to leave my church. We are going to leave the American church. Have been one to long to not fight.
You made an error but it worded out okay anyway. It should be “know McCain” but “No McCain” is better.
Yes, I noticed the mistake after I clicked the post button, and thought, what the heck, why correct it?
“No McCain” might make a good bumper sticker, but I don’t think it’s worth worrying too much about him.
Songbird was very active in singing Bomb, Bomb, Bomb Iran with they North Phoenix Baptist Church Choir.
It may one of few, but my Episcopal Church couldn’t be more true to Scripture, and served by a very orthodox priest from the “old school.”
Not all have followed the new liberal leadership.
In the place where he said, “By the way, I’m a Baptist, not Episcolpalian,” he may have been thinking more generally of Christian faith when he was asked and then answered the question, and then went back and straightened out the one asking the question.
I don’t like just trying to trap men or entangle them in words, even if it is someone I don’t support. It’s not just. Words can be questioned and clarified. Fine, but the art of entanglement is a sick lawyer’s technique. I think that’s what was employed here. And let me add, that if Senator McCain has been sometimes identifying himself as an Episcopalian, it could be by the fact that he was probably "baptized" (sprinkled) as an infant in that church, and has not been baptized (by immersion in water) in a Baptist church. Baptist churches require that a candidate for ROLL membership be (or to have been) baptized by immersion in water under the authority of a church of like faith and practice.) This does not suggest a denominational connection of the churches; they are each autonomous (or should be, if they identify as "Baptist." But Baptist churches often also accept the baptism of "Bible" Churches, "Community" Churches, and other independent congregations that believe and practice the same fundamentals as Baptists (hence the term, "Baptistic" is often used). From time-to-time there are, in Baptist churches, people who attend and participate in much of the work, who never apply for ROLL membership, and perhaps they never present themselves for water baptism. Baptists do NOT believe that water baptism is a part of salvation, only a picture testimony of the work of Christ (death, burial and resurrection). Baptists believe that undergoing that testimony is important, but not that it contributes to salvation. Baptists believe in BELIEVERS baptism, meaning that those baptized are already born-again, regenerated, saved people, making a statement -- a testimony, publicly, by presenting themselves to be immersed in water. Senator McCain, if I understand him, is attending and participating somewhat in a Baptist church, but has no ROLL membership, because he does not believe it essential to be baptized by immersion under the auspices of that Baptist church. It is NOT essential to salvation. It is probably essential to ROLL membership in that local assembly. Now, Senator McCain's mind may still refer back to his infant connection to the Episcopal Church when he is being questioned or drilled or entangled by reporters. Why entangle the man? If I were to ask him questions in this regard, I would ask him of his faith in Jesus Christ, and what he believes is the Hope of eternal life. Has he trusted the Blood Atonement of Christ for the payment and forgiveness of his sins? Blood is thicker than water.
I kept trying to break up the long paragraph in my last post into separate paragraphs, but when I posted it, it still threw it together in one. Why does it do this?
The liberal leadership of the ECUSA (or is it the TEC this week) isn't particularly new. They accepted Sprong's heresies decades ago. And how long has Vickie G. been a bishop.
If it sees ANY html code in the posting, everything has to be posted. Did you mix a couple of < p > with some ordinary returns? I think in certain situations, it will turn your non html returns into coded ones if you preview; if you then manually edit after that, it won't take the non-html formatting.
Ah, thanks! I’ll be more careful about how I edit after spell checking.
A little bit different twist on an ex-Episcopal.
The caller against Guiliani likes Hunter and Tancredo! Wonder if he’s a FReeper.
Oops! I thought I was still on the Terry Anderson show thread. Sorry. :)
They must really have gone left to get on the left hand side of McCain.
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Try using “< p >” for paragraph breaks (without the spaces between the brackets and the “p”).
If another former Episcopalian (now an Anglican NOT affiliated with TEC) may put in his two cents on baptism, the Episcopal church does not sprinkle anybody. Water from the baptismal font is poured over the head of the infant three times; once in the name of the Father, once the Son, and once the Holy Spirit. Such a baptism should be, and usually is, accepted as valid by most churches, including Rome. I have known Episcopalians who had their parish priest perform their baptism as a full immersion at some other location, such as a river, with the full Prayer Book ceremony, and that is perfectly acceptable, as well.
As to the necessity of baptism to salvation, I will go with John 3:3-5 on that one.
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