Posted on 09/16/2007 9:38:52 AM PDT by DCPatriot
Given the responses I got the last time I focused on this issue, I almost hate to bring it up…but here goes.
I think Tony Snow is exactly right when he says here:
“I deeply admire what [Mr. Bush] did on immigration and I think he’s right,” Mr. Snow said. “I think the policies the president outlined generally are the ones that eventually this country is going to adopt.”
Let us hope so, because the alternative “solutions” out there - “let everyone in and register them all Democrat” on the left and “ship them all back to Mexico no matter how long they’ve been here or how productive” - are neither workable nor just.
Snow also says, here,
“the White House was not prepared for the anger of foes of illegal immigration
For crying out loud, that’s a staggering statement when even I - a lowly and not terribly bright housewife - completely understood the mood of the illegal immigration extremists. They were not interested in any sort of “half-measure” by President Bush - they did not want Bush do what Reagan always tried to do, “get 75% of what you want and come back later for the rest.” No, the extremists on this issue, crying, “we’re the base, you better dance with who brung ya,” were relentlessly uncompromising on the matter of illegal immigration and President Bush - and any other politicians who disagreed with them or sought a more workable solution than “ship them back and build high, high walls” had their rhetorical heads smashed repeatedly against the rhetorical curbside.
I still have a few dents, myself.
The illegal immigration hardliners demanded “all or nothing at all,” from President Bush and the GOP leadership. And now, they have nothing, and no political power to do much of anything. Illegal immigrants are still entering the nation mostly unchecked. The useless NIS is no closer to being reformed and retooled into something useful. There are no plans to design as sort of Ellis Island West, to actually process potential citizen immigrants “the way my grandfather came into New York - legally!” as the hardliner crows. Nothing is being done. But hey…at least the folks with the high, strong principals can sleep at night knowing they didn’t compromise!
A long time ago I wrote that the blood of many may well rest on the heads of those who would not get serious about the War on Terror. By the same token, I think it would not be completely unfair to state that the increases and excesses of illegal immigrants - and whatever political fall-out or legislative impotence comes from once more refusing to deal realistically with an issue that has been ignored for decades - will rest on the heads on those who took a hard, uncompromising line; those who managed to drop-kick the first president to try to effect positive change, and further weaken his entire presidency, while still getting nothing done. This issue was not well-played, folks. And just because the only ones still talking about it are the one-noters in internet forums doesn’t mean the issue is put to bed. Far from it. The reckoning - and the issue itself - has simply been kicked down the road for the time being, launched by a tantrum of “conservative anger”, which sent it nowhere good.
In the Wall Street Journal today the editorial writers take a look at how the hardline stance against illegal Mexican immigrants (come on, you never hear about the illegal Irish all over Boston or Long Island) can hurt the GOP and conservatives politically. They’re right to be concerned. When conservative and Republicans find themselves further weakened politically because they’ve managed to give the back of their hand to what every year becomes a more substantial portion of the electorate, who will they blame? They’ll have no right to blame George W. Bush - who tried to deal with the issue - but they may try to. It’s easy to blame Bush for everything, after all. But the truth is, they’ll have no one to blame but themselves.
I have a suspicion, just a little one - it’s anecdotal and nothing I can cite - but a suspicion nonetheless that some of the folks who jumped on the “all or nothing, ship them back, Bush has betrayed the base” bandwagon are beginning to regret the ride…turns out it was just a merry-go-round, after all.
I had never heard of them before. - Thanks for the heads up.
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Two weeks ago or so a freeper tugged my sleeve to dcpatriot's WA activities. I had not checked that site before then but, son of a gun, there he was in all his anti-American, illegal-coddling, 'if it's good for me, it's good period' glory.
You should read some of the freepmails I get about this guy.
Do you remember when our fearless leader used the expression,”If only I were a dictator”. I realized we were in deep trouble when I heard him say that.
I said to my wife just after 9.11 that Fox (mexico) was the big loser. Maybe I was wrong.
Our leader was even using this phrase when he was governor of Texas in 1998. He was regretting not being able to be a full blown tyrant. SCARY !!!
Wrong. I am not a mortgage loan officer. I am a Realtor...for 30 years. I was making an observation that the vast majority of the 300+ listings I sold during the recent boom were to purchasers applying for 100% financing. Big Difference.
And yes, as a capitalist free market fan...I am more than happy for non-citizens to be able to work here.
The recession that's started due to normal business cycles will indeed be enhanced by the housing bust...but it will also be made more severe by the enforcement of the immigration laws.
I am not the enemy. I am merely posting an article that provides a different angle than the xenophobic, bigoted screeds often found here by the usual suspects.
As far as me posting on WideAwakes.net, I have never said a negative thing about FreeRepublic and they all know I still enjoy posting here.
Have at it, little man. Go for it.
My...aren't you nice?
You have a lovely family..from the photo on your profile page.
Do you let them see your posts in here to show them this other side of you?
Rhetorical questions...no need to respond.
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Yes, you are the enemy, you and all the other employers who are selling America out for the next generations just so you can make a fast buck.
We all know that you posted the article only because it echos all you say yourself.
"xenophobic, bigoted screeds"? Why how hopelessly liberal of you to couch all opposition to your give-away of America so.
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Yes, you are the enemy, you and all the other employers who are selling America out for the next generations just so you can make a fast buck.
We all know that you posted the article only because it echos all you say yourself.
"xenophobic, bigoted screeds"? Why how hopelessly liberal of you to couch all opposition to your give-away of America so...a page right out of Jesse Jackson's rule book.
Have at it, little man. Go for it.
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My pleasure...here's the most recent example...
Are you sure dcpatriot isn’t a cross dressing blog writer? lol - he sure loves rudi, maybe he was influenced to go all girly and write a blog as a female? I’m just saying..... ;^)
btw...my six year old grandson calls people 'little man' when he kids them. Kind of puts your wit in perspective.
DCP bringing your family into it Wardaddy. Where did he learn his manners?
they just had a big brooha over there.......the harpies there went back to their same wolf pack OCD antics there like they did here
it’s their beginning of the end
Let me it perfectly clear.
You hang out at Wideawakes with a crowd that was very very damaging to this site.
They got their panties in a knot and left and good riddance.
And some of us were allowed backand we are grateful...very.
Yes, we sure don’t want them back but I can’t speak for the powers that be here...that’s their call.
And yes as you are well aware, Wideawakes is already imploding with the same activity there that the harpies indulged in here. They can’t help themselves.....they even turned on their footboy Sinkspur.
If you think I’m in a minority here in my opinion why don’t you do a poll?
My wife who freeps knows this quite well and shares my view. Some of the harpies personally betrayed me. I knew them beyond this keyboard. Being the part of some inside club is all they really want, politics is really secondary...at best.
DC is Darwin Central btw....another anti-freeper site largely populated by athiests and OBLS
some are bright....the refuge of Clown Posse?
were you a Clown?
you don’t write acerbic enough.
I registered over there because many of them were FRiends to me...in so much as conversing with them for years here at FR.
I have no favorite presidential candidate...I leave that to the smoke-filled backrooms and for the spinmeisters that frequent the blogs and forums trying to 'sell' their man. When the nominee is chosen by the GOP, then I will partake.
I am conservative on most issues despite what my stalker says...immigration being the exception. This is due to my self-employed status and entrepreneurial spirit.
The Immigration Bill, while far from perfect, afforded us the vehicle to garner some Hispanic support in terms of voters, and it was the best way to achieve control of the situation without appearing to be anti-immigrant.
It doesn't surprise me that certain posters that created problems here also created them over there.
And I don't think you're a minority here. You are the same make and model as most of the other ill-informed posters on the subject.
The Anchoress is recognized as one of the premier blogs on the planet. Why don't you catch up?
Cheers!
As far as I know, I held no position in a Clown Posse...and I leave acerbic writings to others.
If you remain somewhat polite to me, I will respond in kind. If you don't, I'll also respond proportionately.
So far, you've been fair...and I thank you for that.
"Nothing" in this case was absolutely the next-best alternative to "ship them all back", and I was tickled to death with that outcome.
Are you sure dcpatriot isn’t a cross dressing blog writer? lol - he sure loves rudi, maybe he was influenced to go all girly and write a blog as a female? I’m just saying..... ;^)
I think you're making that up.
I have never typed anything stating a preference for Rudy Giuliani.
However, if he ends up the GOP candidate, I'll vote for him.
And I am quite comfortable in my male skin... thank you for worrying.
You don't want to believe it but...
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