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Should be good news for the clandestine service.
1 posted on 09/14/2007 8:34:21 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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I must confess I don’t know what end is up. Supposedly Bush put Porter Goss into the CIA to flush out all the leakers and backstabbers. But things escalated, and Goss left instead.

So, what are the rights and wrongs of this? Did Gosse screw up and fire the wrong guys? Or did Bush chicken out under pressure? It seems as if the CIA is still loaded with traitors eager to leak to the left wing press in order to undermine the President.


2 posted on 09/14/2007 8:44:30 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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Two words - Risk adverse -


3 posted on 09/14/2007 8:52:07 PM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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Somehow, I feel like anything going on at the National Clandestine Service ought to be a secret.


4 posted on 09/14/2007 8:58:35 PM PDT by nuconvert ("Terrorism is not the enemy. It is a means to the ends of militant Islamism." MZJ)
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And bringing Steve Kappes back was a terrible choice - The guy is more risk adverse than is Michael J. Sulick -

We also have Dir Hayden recently banning water boarding (as too rough).....

Thankfully Former SecDef Rumsfeld put much of the CIA SAD responsibilities back into JSOC....

Sulick & Kappes types are not helpful at all to the shooters in this WOT....

7 posted on 09/14/2007 9:18:45 PM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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A lot of damage was done during the Clinton years. Clinton—probably at the request of robber barons like George Soros—refocused the CIA on foreign business and industry. Then New Jersey Sen. Robert Torticelli said CIA couldn’t hire unsavory characters as spies or contract employees:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/522426/posts

10 posted on 09/14/2007 9:53:20 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee ("A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.")
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So the people who wanted to get rid of the leaker are out and the people who opposed getting rid of him are back in charge. What’s going on? Do we really want the CIA to handle classified information?

I sure hope that Bush secretly intends to keep Hayden and friends busy looking for windmills off Cape Cod while letting someone else do the covert stuff (anyone else-Code Pink, the French, you name it-would be an improvement).


14 posted on 09/14/2007 11:16:21 PM PDT by haroldeveryman
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Dog

Excellent news, professionalism rules!


16 posted on 09/15/2007 6:57:31 AM PDT by AdmSmith
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These men are risk adverse, they are pussy footers. Gone are the days of spy craft and special intervention exercises. Rough, effective interrogation is disallowed. Assassination of national security risks abroad are illegal. Thank you liberals.

The CIA has been ruined by liberals. It cannot be cleaned out , and the CIA works to destroy those who insist on its reform.The CIA is too powerful and needs to be dismantled and its tenure ended.No loss.

Next another agency which follows the requirements of the president needs to be put in place, with a rigid , clear command structure, emphasizing field craft and direct action intervention exercises.No agent who feels he must put his persoanl liberal ideology over the mission should be hired, or if dicovered doing so, then must be incarcerated under the National Security Act, or summarily executed for treason.

The intelligence failure of the CIA is directly attributable to liberalism as a sickness in the CIA. Look at Valerie Plame, for example. How could the CIA retain such a complete, political idiot as an employee, who felt free to express her partisan politics in Washington. Just think what she would do in the field if she was an operative?

End the CIA for good.

It needs and deserves it.

22 posted on 09/15/2007 7:52:35 PM PDT by Candor7 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Baghdad_(1258))
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