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To: Borges
Where does the Constitution refer to the Christian God?

There's zero reference to Christianity, with the sole mention of any sort of deity of "In the Year of Our Lord 1787" at the end above the signatures, which is pretty much standard document boilerplate for the times.

13 posted on 09/14/2007 3:07:46 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Strategerist; Borges
The Constitution also ends up "with a firm reliance on the Protection of Divine Providence".

But I agree, it's not an explicitly Christian document. It is, however, one sprung from a Christian culture, crafted, debated, and passed by men who were mostly Christian, with a minority of influential deists of the kind who possessed a slient belief in God as the Author of rights and the Bestower of divine providence.

It could never pass, in my opinion, as a Muslim, Jewish, Pagan, or Secularist document. Is it grounded in Natural, not Positive law; and the Declaration roots itself firmly in "the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God."

25 posted on 09/14/2007 3:32:33 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Justice and judgment are the foundation of His throne.)
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To: Strategerist
There's zero reference to Christianity, with the sole mention of any sort of deity of "In the Year of Our Lord 1787"

Who do you think "Our Lord" refers to in the Constitution?

Who was born 1787 years before the Constitution was adopted?

There's a reason why the "Year of Our Lord" was standard and normal for the times. Everyone knew who our Lord was back then.

28 posted on 09/14/2007 3:40:04 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Strategerist
However, they do make a point of using the possessive with "Lord". They don't just use 'the'. Furthermore, 1787 sort of gives a BIG hint as to which deity they are referring. Additionally, they also use a very old-fashioned dating system of when the nation began with "Independence of the United States of America the Twelfth". So they deliberately dated their document (the Constitution) two ways, one in religious and normal format, the other in political and archaic format.

And interestingly that illustrates a dichotomy seen among the American nation today, with many Americans worshiping the Christian God, but also many Americans (including many professed Christians) worshiping--worshiping--some overly idealized notion of a perfect United States.

33 posted on 09/14/2007 3:51:48 PM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: Strategerist; Borges
I have to correct a typo in my last post. The way I typed it, it looked like I was speaking of the deists' "silent" belief. Oops. I referred to deists who held a salient belief.... in a God who gives Laws and upon whose Providence we rely as a nation.
38 posted on 09/14/2007 4:09:13 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Justice and judgment are the foundation of His throne.)
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