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"This is what we've been worrying about," said Michael A. DeVita, a University of Pittsburgh critical care specialist. "If you promote organ donation too much, people lose sight that it's a dying patient there. It's not just a source of organs. It's a person."

The organ harvesting business has the potential to be far more dangerous than most people realize.

1 posted on 09/14/2007 2:03:22 PM PDT by wagglebee
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2 posted on 09/14/2007 2:03:48 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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3 posted on 09/14/2007 2:04:19 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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The doctors who did this deserve to spend the rest of their lives in a Level 5 Supermax prison.


4 posted on 09/14/2007 2:04:40 PM PDT by darkangel82 (Socialism is NOT an American value.)
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5 posted on 09/14/2007 2:04:54 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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Anybody see Monty Python’s “Meaning of Life”?


6 posted on 09/14/2007 2:05:18 PM PDT by techcor
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Some say the newly aggressive stance makes them especially uneasy because it comes amid a campaign to rewrite state laws governing organ donation to give OPOs more power. In addition, they note, organ donor advocates have been pushing a controversial practice known as " donation after cardiac death," which involves patients who have not been declared brain-dead but are being kept alive with a respirator.

That was the case with Navarro. Severely disabled, he was put on a respirator after being taken to the hospital on Jan. 29, 2006, from a nursing home, where he had been found without a pulse. When doctors told his mother, Rosa, that there was no hope, she agreed to allow him to become a donor. But she was shocked when she heard what happened next. Her son's heart kept beating even though his ventilator had been removed and the multiple doses of drugs had been administered. Roozrokh also allegedly administered through a feeding tube in Navarro's stomach an antiseptic normally used to sterilize a donor only after death. The doctors eventually gave up and wheeled him back to his room, reportedly as he frothed at the mouth and shivered.

That is grotesque, and 'harvesting' at it's worst.

7 posted on 09/14/2007 2:10:46 PM PDT by xJones (Real countries have real borders.)
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"They can definitely get overzealous at times," said Eric Gluck, director of critical care services at the Swedish Covenant Hospital in Chicago. "I have seen these guys come in and almost browbeat families into submission to get them to donate organs."

At which point, I would have then sent those guy flying back through the wall...

My aunt is a retired registered nurse, and she told me long ago to never sign the organ donation card on the back of my driver's license since she knew of several cases where people were allowed to die after car wrecks to get their organs. And this was ten years ago...

8 posted on 09/14/2007 2:12:31 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
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I think I should be able to sell my parts to the highest bidder.


9 posted on 09/14/2007 2:12:54 PM PDT by Kowdawg
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Perhaps Larry Niven was a prophet?


14 posted on 09/14/2007 3:07:05 PM PDT by NMR Guy
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To: wagglebee
It is a dark business.

I will not sign an organ donor card, because I have personally talked with (in real life and on FR) those who have assisted some “harvesting”. To get a good heart, the heart must be removed before it stops beating. The preferred method of harvesting organs is to take it from a donor is still living.

Having said that, things like donating a kidney, which is done most often from a healthy donor who gives one, is a great act of charity.

15 posted on 09/14/2007 3:47:28 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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About 6 years ago, a music teacher at my former high school talked to us about organ donation. She volunteered for one of the organ donation groups, as she had a good experience working with them when she donated her son’s organs after his death. She said it is untrue that they hasten death or do less to prevent death if one is an organ donor. My cousin works in a hospital, and he said that isn’t true. Articals and comments posted here have further confirmed that to me. I am fine with my organs being donated, but I will not sign my driver’s license because I don’t want them taking my organs before I’m officially dead. I’m showing this to my mom because she has it signed on her license. It makes me nervous. I told her I will tell them to donate her organs when she dies, but I want her to get full treatment.

It really disgusted me at how some of these organ donation groups when I read this article. It seems like some of these people aren’t treated as people but just a container full of organs. There seems to be an attitude that it would be better to save multiple people with one person’s organs than save that one person. Hospitals and organ donation groups need to realize this severely injured or ailing person is indeed a person, and he/she deserves full treatment.


18 posted on 09/14/2007 4:25:09 PM PDT by Pinkbell (Duncan Hunter 2008 - Protecting and Restoring America)
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To: wagglebee

“The organ harvesting business has the potential to be far more dangerous than most people realize.”

We don’t always know which doctors are honorable, and which are not, which is why we need to be a strong advocate for our loved ones, and get an opinion from an unbiased source and a doctor we can trust.


20 posted on 09/14/2007 7:21:45 PM PDT by Sun (Duncan Hunter: pro-life/borders, understands Red China threat! http://www.gohunter08.com/Home.aspx)
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“No one thinks the Navarro case is typical...”

I doubt very much that “no one” thinks that, and just from the small sampling of responses to this on F.R. post we can see there are plenty of similar stories.

Although the Pope himself is an organ donor, I have also heard a priest very close to this situation describe it as immoral in practice, not the idea of donation, but because it almost always involves a grey area of essentially dissecting a person while he’s still alive (even though “brain dead” or whatever). The blood must apparently be flowing, and the body “kept” alive for the organs to be useful, so no one is completely dead when they start “harvesting”...that’s my limited understanding anyway.


22 posted on 09/14/2007 10:27:24 PM PDT by baa39
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You watch. The next big thing for the liberal elite will be trips to China for new organs from live involuntary donors.
25 posted on 09/15/2007 4:28:12 AM PDT by Revolutionary ("I love it when a plan comes together.")
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No one thinks the Navarro case is typical, but it comes as transplant advocates are becoming increasingly aggressive in their efforts to procure hearts, livers, kidneys and other organs in the hope of saving more of the thousands of desperate Americans who die languishing on waiting lists.

MAYBE not typical now, but it sure will be at the rate we're going.

32 posted on 09/15/2007 4:22:49 PM PDT by ukie55
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