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1 posted on 09/13/2007 9:02:44 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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Run Paul, Ru Paul, he’s a nut.


2 posted on 09/13/2007 9:04:24 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (RUN Paul - a man proudly putting al Qaeda's interest ahead of America's.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The reason Paul is as popular as he is has to do largely with his sudden support from Democrats

Correction: his PREFERRED support from Democrats.

3 posted on 09/13/2007 9:07:57 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("Proudly keeping one iron boot on the necks of libertarian faux 'conservatives' since 1958!")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This reads more like the conservative case FOR Ron Paul.


4 posted on 09/13/2007 9:08:56 PM PDT by NapkinUser (Tom Tancredo or Ron Paul in 2008!)
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To: George W. Bush; Extremely Extreme Extremist
DEA? Gone. Medicare/Medicaid? History. IRS? The government has no right to take your money.

Sweet.

5 posted on 09/13/2007 9:10:01 PM PDT by NapkinUser (Tom Tancredo or Ron Paul in 2008!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All
So you guys don't agree with limited government or what?

Why don't you folks debate why we need to be involved in Medicare, Housing, or the UN, instead of posting the usual knee-jerk cheap-shots.

7 posted on 09/13/2007 9:10:58 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Coming soon: Stupidparty.com = Republican Party news, opinions, and blogs)
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There’s always room for a Paul-Kucinich ticket.


8 posted on 09/13/2007 9:11:15 PM PDT by Rudder
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It's no wonder White Supremacist Website and forum Stormfront.org has come out in support of Paul, as has former Ku Klux Klan member and politician David Duke.

Has the Paul campaign welcomed the endorsement though?

More guilt-by-association BS.

9 posted on 09/13/2007 9:11:58 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Coming soon: Stupidparty.com = Republican Party news, opinions, and blogs)
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Fred Thompson voted for NCLB.


10 posted on 09/13/2007 9:12:39 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Coming soon: Stupidparty.com = Republican Party news, opinions, and blogs)
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Who else here wants to abolish the FDA?

Well, I for one, considering, IMO, they are killing exponentially more Americans than they are 'saving' and, besides, and more importantly, perpetuating tyranny over the American people. NCEs stand for New Chemical Entities, new drugs

FYI: FDA Tyranny (a collection of news stories and commentary on FDA abuses)


11 posted on 09/13/2007 9:13:16 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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“He offers no constructive thoughts, only destructive ones.”

Pretty sad that nowadays abolishing government programs and actually shrinking government is not considered a viable ‘constructive’ solution by todays faux conservatives...


13 posted on 09/13/2007 9:16:42 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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Anyone who reads this post and continues to support this nut case has to be seriously deranged.
14 posted on 09/13/2007 9:18:16 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Division Soldier fighting terrorists in the Triangle of Death)
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Ron Paul has the same chance of being elected President as did Ross Perot, as did Pat Buchanan, or any other insurgent candidate.

Harold Stassen had more of a chance.


15 posted on 09/13/2007 9:18:16 PM PDT by mkjessup (Jan 20, 2009 - "We Don't Know. Where Rudy Went. Just Glad He's Not. The President. Burma Shave.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Noumenon; Lurker; joanie-f; B4Ranch; AuntB
Actually, I have have personally met Ron Paul and he most definitely IS NOT a nut. He's a loyal American, who is consistently elected by his constituents, and almost all of his policies would not only be good for America, they are in line with what the founders intended, and what led to the strongetst, freest, most prosperous, an most giving nation on earth.

He and I, however, have a major disagreement and it deals with Iraq and Afghanistan. Although there is no "official" declaration of war (and I for one would like to see one), nonetheless the constitutional mandate was met by congress authorizing the war and then allocating the funds for it.

In addition, we have taken the fight to abject enemies who are dying by the tens of thousands as they try and stop us from establishing an allied nation in Iraq and Aftghanistan, where the vast majority of the people in those countries want our help, and where the enemy simply MUST do all in their power to stop us, thereby creating a fly trap where self-admitted enemies of this nation who would otherwise be planning to come here to kill us, and would have safe sanctuaries to do so, now must fight and die by the tens of thousands there rather than here.

Outside of that large difference of opinion and I understand and respect why Ron Paul says what he does, it is out of his very strong and dear commitment to be constitutional...its just a very fundamental disagreement on that point, as I said, outside of that major issue (and a similar one over abortion where we are both against it but he wants no federal action to overturn it, leaving it strictly in the hands of the states...where I want federal action because it is needed to overturn federal action from the courts that gave us Roe v Wade)... I believe Ron Paul has great constitutional ideas and wants a better, more constitutinal America. The fact that so many people cannot see that his policies in most areas are in fact much more in line with what was established in our nation and the constitutinal principles behind them is just more indication how these solcialistic programs and agencies have watered down the teaching of fundamental principle to Americans in the pubbl;ic school system.

Unfortunately, in orfer for PAul to achieve many of his otherwise good ideas, we MUST defeat these abject enemies and take the fight to them. If we fail there, it is very likely that they will bring the war here and make it much, much harder to achieve the other ends that he seeks...therefore, he does not have my support for the Presidency, and that is the reasoning behind it.

22 posted on 09/13/2007 9:25:31 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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We wouldn't have a nutcase presidential candidate without him being a racist, not these days anyways. Paul luckily fits that bill. He's made his case against the African American community known very well, starting with this comment back in 1992, "If you have ever been robbed by a black teen-aged male, you know how unbelievably fleet-footed they can be."

"Racism is simply an ugly form of collectivism, the mindset that views humans strictly as members of groups rather than individuals. Racists believe that all individuals who share superficial physical characteristics are alike: as collectivists, racists think only in terms of groups. By encouraging Americans to adopt a group mentality, the advocates of so-called "diversity" actually perpetuate racism. Their obsession with racial group identity is inherently racist."

RON PAUL LIBRARY, GOVERNMENT AND RACISM, April 16, 2007

33 posted on 09/13/2007 9:32:58 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Coming soon: Stupidparty.com = Republican Party news, opinions, and blogs)
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He is right that a whole raft of government agencies need to be abolished for the sole reason they are unconstitutional. A great number of our headaches come from them.

The Department of Education? Why do we have a federal agency that is only noteworthy for watching it’s benchmark decline year after year?

The BATFE? Why should the government care what you drink, what you smoke, what you shoot, or what you blow up so long as it is your own? Totally unnecessary.

The FDA? This outfit has crooned about saving ten thousand lives by releasing a drug from testing. This actually means that in the year preceding that, when the drug was available, ten thousand people died from the problem it could cure. At the very least it needs serious reform.

The IRS? We need to abolish the sixteenth and seventeenth amendment and go back to a federalist proportional representation, proportional pay system. The federal government should create a budget then each of the states should pay the portion of the budget proportional to it’s representation in congress. Returning senators to state legislature control would result in more control on government spending.

I don’t like the drugs that are currently illegal, but the WOD has justified Gestapo tactics. No-knock raids using bad intel fit the bill for me. I love liberty more than I hate those drugs. I don’t think this is true of the DEA as an outfit.

The UN and these bad trade deals are a threat as well. They should be dealt with.

We do not need a government as large as we have today, further it has grown beyond the ability for one person or group of people to effectively control it. We have people that we call bureaucrats that are essentially Lords of private fiefs who have no accountability and yet tremendous authority.

Ron Paul is not wrong about all things.

58 posted on 09/13/2007 9:49:33 PM PDT by Hawk1976 (747 superliners crashed into the WTC on 9/11, Steny Hoyer told me so on 8/7/07.)
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Limited government was a pretty cool idea 230-ish years ago. So sad that it’s out of vogue now, with both parties.


62 posted on 09/13/2007 9:54:51 PM PDT by Teacher317
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Private post offices, for example, would be bought up by companies

This particular point illustrates the stark difference between the philosophy of libertarianism on one hand and Constitutionalism on the other, since the power to establish post offices is in fact one of the enumerated powers granted to Congress by the Constitution.

78 posted on 09/13/2007 10:32:07 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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There is no small government conservative in the race at the moment that has any credibility compared to Ron Paul. The other candidates might talk about balancing the budget in 5 or 10 years and then reducing $100 billion in spending. Wow, that is sure impressive considering that we are talking about an almost $3 trillion budget! The other so-called small government conservatives have fallen down the slippery slope that the Democrats and statists have laid and are now themselves big government conservatives and statists. They won’t even debate these economic points that were so often discussed in the past. I am sick of it.

I stand by to be criticized by somebody for not supporting big government conservatism or not realizing that it is impossible to take apart this unwieldy government machine that we have built. I also look forward to somebody criticizing me by noting that we have $60 trillion in responsibility for welfare policies that people have paid into the government so it is only logical that we continue our programs until it becomes $100 trillion or more.


82 posted on 09/14/2007 12:53:00 AM PDT by burzum (None shall see me, though my battlecry may give me away -Minsc)
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I think its unfair to tar Libertarianism with an association with RuPaul or with his pedantic cheerleaders at Reason Magazine.
98 posted on 09/14/2007 5:07:32 AM PDT by .cnI redruM (James Hansen; Scott Thomas Beauchamp with a PhD)
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Paul is a big fan of the free market and wants to see an end of just about every federal agency that does anything useful or helpful. DEA? Gone. Medicare/Medicaid? History. IRS? The government has no right to take your money.

Sounds good to me.

103 posted on 09/14/2007 5:46:31 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government, Benito Guilinni a short man in search of a balcony)
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