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Why America's Mayor will not be the GOP's candidate
NY DAILY NEWS ^ | Thursday, September 13th 2007 | DOUGLAS SCHOEN

Posted on 09/13/2007 8:42:06 AM PDT by Liz

Edited on 09/13/2007 8:44:21 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

Yes, Giuliani - the national front-runner for months now - holds close to a five-point lead over former Sen. Fred Thompson in the latest Real Clear Politics averages.

But there are big warning signs that make a Giuliani nomination a dubious proposition at best. Look - I'm no disinterested observer. I am an active Democrat and was a polling strategist for President Bill Clinton. But a big part of me would like to see the former mayor win the nomination; I'm a New Yorker, and of all the Republicans, he is most to my liking philosophically.


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1 posted on 09/13/2007 8:42:09 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Liz
I am an active Democrat .... and of all the Republicans, he is most to my liking philosophically.
2 posted on 09/13/2007 8:43:03 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (Take the wheel, Fred.)
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To: Liz

Well, at least he said that Julie Annie is like a democrat.


3 posted on 09/13/2007 8:43:33 AM PDT by dashing doofus (Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber)
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To: ElkGroveDan

Yeah, like I believe anything this loon has to say.


4 posted on 09/13/2007 8:44:41 AM PDT by Eagles Talon IV
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To: Liz
of all the Republicans, he is most to my liking philosophically.

Uh oh. Not a good sign.

5 posted on 09/13/2007 8:45:14 AM PDT by hsalaw
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To: Liz
I am an active Democrat and was a polling strategist for President Bill Clinton. But a big part of me would like to see the former mayor win the nomination; I'm a New Yorker, and of all the Republicans, he is most to my liking philosophically.

you want him to win the nomination? get him to run as a democrat. he belongs with you guys anyway.
6 posted on 09/13/2007 8:46:33 AM PDT by absolootezer0 (stop repeat offenders- don't re-elect them!)
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To: Liz

Rudy is trying to be democrat Lite. For the life of me I can’t understand how that resonates in RED states.


7 posted on 09/13/2007 8:47:01 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Liz
and of all the Republicans, he is most to my liking philosophically

Which is why he won't be the GOP nominee.

8 posted on 09/13/2007 8:47:40 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Want authentic 1st century Christianity? Visit a local, New Testament Independent Baptist church!)
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To: Liz
Notice I haven't yet touched on Giuliani's most-often-cited vulnerabilities: His support for a woman's right to choose and gay rights still makes him a very heavy lift in the family-values party.

Not exactly the words I would choose, but this is the nitty gritty.

On a side note, it's interesting how he inflates Mitt and tries to downplay Fred. Frankly, Mitt bought the Iowa caucuses, and he is running fairly well in New Hampshire because NH is filled with folks who don't want to pay Massachusetts taxes but still retain Massachusetts values--i.e., liberals, the folks who just love to tax somebody else to pay for their agenda. But what I notice is that this confessedly liberal writer's real purpose in this column is to promote Mitt Romney at the expense of Fred, since he recognizes that Rudy is a loser in a party with "family values."

9 posted on 09/13/2007 8:49:14 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: ElkGroveDan

Yep. The liberals like him alright.


10 posted on 09/13/2007 8:49:31 AM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Elections have consequences.)
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To: ElkGroveDan

A damning statement for Rudy if ever there was one.


11 posted on 09/13/2007 8:51:28 AM PDT by SouthernBoyupNorth ("For my wings are made of Tungsten, my flesh of glass and steel..........")
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
Yep. The liberals like him alright.

Actually, most liberals hate him. They would just like to see us nominate him.

12 posted on 09/13/2007 8:54:59 AM PDT by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; TommyDale; indylindy; calcowgirl; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; NapkinUser; ...

FYI-—discuss.


13 posted on 09/13/2007 8:55:43 AM PDT by Liz (It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong. Voltaire)
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To: Liz
A Democrat trying to prove to Republicans that Rudy is just like him, so he doesn't have chance.

Touche'

14 posted on 09/13/2007 8:56:47 AM PDT by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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I can’t wait to see how the Rooty Rooters will try to spin this.

No doubt they will talk about how Rooty Toot can get “cross over” voters, but they don’t realize that there is no reason for ‘Rats to vote for a RINO when there’s a liberal ‘Rat running.


15 posted on 09/13/2007 8:59:33 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Liz; TommyDale

It stands to figure a Democrat would prefer Rooty, but you notice he did not say he would vote for him.

He wishes us to prefer Rooty as the nominee. Very telling.

My preference still lies with Duncan Hunter,I think he is a great guy, but I will support Fred.


16 posted on 09/13/2007 9:02:13 AM PDT by dforest (Duncan Hunter is the best hope we have on both fronts.)
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To: ElkGroveDan

This is exactly why Rudy is no republican, but a rat in repub clothing.


17 posted on 09/13/2007 9:04:20 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot
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To: Liz
LOL, I think Rudy G., would disagree with this Clinton minion, since he routinely slams her and her Hillary Care, on the campaign trail.
18 posted on 09/13/2007 9:05:23 AM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: Liz
He says "a big part of me would like to see the former mayor win the nomination."

But a much bigger part of him wants to make sure the Republicans nominate a candidate who will lose the general election.

I suspect this guy is worried that Giuliani (as the most "centrist" Republican) actually has a good chance to win the general election and is hoping and praying Giuliani is not the Republican nominee.

BTW, before I get flamed, I am not a Giuliani supporter. Just giving my opinion as to what this democrat thinks.

19 posted on 09/13/2007 9:07:08 AM PDT by Doodle
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To: Liz
"I'm a New Yorker Democrat, and of all the Republicans, he is most to my liking philosophically."

Bye Rudy..

sw

20 posted on 09/13/2007 9:09:51 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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