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Tsongas Holds 10-Point Lead In Survey (MA special election)
WZB TV News ^ | September 11, 2007 | Jon Keller

Posted on 09/12/2007 6:21:55 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued

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To: DBrow

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The most obvious example is the distasteful treatment of Jim Ogonowski by the Democratic machine. Ogonowski’s brother John was a pilot on American Flight 11, and every year since John’s death, Jim has spoken at the 9/11 ceremony on Beacon Hill.

Until this year.

This year, Ogonowski is a Republican candidate for Congress. And, completely coincidentally, he has been replaced as a speaker by, coincidentally, the Democrat he’s trying to replace, Marty Meehan. Meehan’s wife, by sheer coincidence, is chairing Democrat Niki Tsongas’ campaign against Ogonowski. After the Boston Herald broke the story, Ms. Tsongas then announced that she certainly hopes he would be part of today’s program.


21 posted on 09/12/2007 7:00:42 PM PDT by LibFreeOrDie (L'Chaim!)
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To: johnthebaptistmoore

All these know it alls might go back and read how the black Republican managed to get elected to the Senate. Mass has elected three R governors recently. Never say never.


22 posted on 09/12/2007 7:03:03 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

What I most remember about Paul Tsongas, is that Al Franken did a pretty funny imitation of him on SNL.


23 posted on 09/12/2007 7:03:42 PM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: DBrow; Maneesh
Australia as a whole is much more left/liberal than the USA. I take it you don’t own guns? You won’t be taking them down under.

Sigh. I know.

I’ve been trying to find a place to send the kids when/if it all falls apart, but I don’t know where to set up two well educated middle class white people.
America will not be a great place for them in 20 more years, assuming that the present course continues.
I’ll stay and fight on right here, but nowhere would want me anyway.

24 posted on 09/12/2007 7:05:50 PM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: Maneesh
"If all of the USA was like MA, we would be a weaker version of France and I would be living in Sydney, Australia."

We would be an Islamo-Communist 3rd world hellhole and so would Australia without a strong U.S. We keep getting pushed closer and closer to the brink of revolution.

25 posted on 09/12/2007 7:06:01 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: dfwgator

Now Franken thinks he’s gonna do a funny imitation of him in the Senate.


26 posted on 09/12/2007 7:08:01 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: Clintonfatigued

The widow Tsongas is “the daughter of an Air Force colonel stationed at the Pentagon.”

http://www.redorbit.com/news/business/806641/he_left_a_legacy_in_lowell_like_no_other_just/index.html


27 posted on 09/12/2007 7:17:27 PM PDT by LibFreeOrDie (L'Chaim!)
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To: ClaireSolt
All these know it alls might go back and read how the black Republican managed to get elected to the Senate.

1. Edward Brooke (the "black Republican") was last elected in 1972. That's not exactly recent.

2. In the Senate, Edward Brooke was so far to the left (incidentally he's alive and living in Virginia) he made Lincoln Chafee look like the second coming of Strom Thurmond. He was more anti-Nixon than just every Democrat in the Senate, Ted Kennedy included. Maybe not the best example of GOP strength in MA.

28 posted on 09/12/2007 7:21:51 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: LibFreeOrDie
“distasteful treatment of Jim Ogonowski by the Democratic machine. “

If I recall correctly, last time Kerry ran for the Senate the Boston Globe insisted he was running “unopposed”, yet his opponent got 20% of the vote.

We must stop Massachusetts from spreading.

29 posted on 09/12/2007 7:26:10 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: ClaireSolt; johnthebaptistmoore

Just an FYI, Edward Brooke, the black Republican Senator, had one of the most liberal voting records of any US Senator ever. In 1974, for example, Brooke had an ACU rating of 13, the same rating as Walter Mondale. That same year George McGovern, generally considered the most left-wing candidate ever nominated by a major party for President, received an ACU rating of 19. If the best Massachusetts has done in the last 40 years is elect a GOP Senator to the left of George McGovern, then that’s mighty sorry indeed.


30 posted on 09/12/2007 7:28:25 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: dfwgator

Can’t find the video of Franken imitating Tsongas, but here’s bit of dialog:

In a Saturday Night Live skit in which Presidential candidates of The Democratic Party addressed a Star Trek Convention, Rep. Paul Tsongas (portrayed by Al Franken) said, “Santa Claus is NOT a leader, Captain Kirk IS a leader. I don’t want to be Santa Claus, I want to be Captain Kirk.”

http://www.geocities.com/phineasbg/krkbest.html


31 posted on 09/12/2007 7:41:43 PM PDT by LibFreeOrDie (L'Chaim!)
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To: DBrow

MA is more liberal than Australia. I said that if all the USA was like MA then i would move.

It is nearly impossible to own guns in MA and most recently backyard fires were banned statewide, that is how wacko left MA is. Rural Asutralia has got to be more conservative.


32 posted on 09/12/2007 7:49:13 PM PDT by Maneesh (A non-hyphenated American.)
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To: ClaireSolt
That was until the 90’s. There has been a massive shift to the left in the MA population so that no Republican will ever win the Governor’s seat again. That is despite having a flaming liberal for a governor who essentially blamed America for not understanding the Muslims and not loving them as the reason for 9/11 at a memorial service yesterday.
33 posted on 09/12/2007 7:51:45 PM PDT by Maneesh (A non-hyphenated American.)
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To: Maneesh

Ogonowski is the brother of John Ogonowski, the pilot of AA Flight 11 that flew into the WTC on 9/11. He is a model conservative and material for much higher office.


34 posted on 09/12/2007 8:01:32 PM PDT by balls (Religion is the root of all evil)
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To: Alter Kaker

That is not the moral of the story. He conducted an irregular, grassroots campaign which defied the established machine. As Rush might say, he went against conventional wisdom. So did the Dems last year. Anyone who thinks he has everything all figured out is just waiting to be knocked off his smugness. What litle I have heard about Deval Patrick makes him sound like a living, breathing reminder against voting Democrat.


35 posted on 09/12/2007 8:22:15 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

I told ya he would get at least 40%.


36 posted on 09/12/2007 8:23:35 PM PDT by MassachusettsGOP (May the West and Republicans Always Win...)
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To: Alter Kaker

There was a lot of anger at Tsongas from the political left for having defeated Brooke in ‘78. Tsongas was perceived as being more Conservative.


37 posted on 09/12/2007 8:34:01 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: MassachusettsGOP

Maybe he’ll pull off a miracle. He’ll get 41%. ;-)


38 posted on 09/12/2007 8:36:10 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: ClaireSolt

The Democrats truly in control of everything important starting in January ‘09 would definitely create a socialistic country for the long-term. Democratic legislation which both creates amnesty for illegal immigrants “to the max” and forever allows illegals here to register to vote throughout the U.S. would do more than enough to truly make sure that the Democrats never lose their political majorities for the long-term!


39 posted on 09/12/2007 8:56:42 PM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore
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To: MassachusettsGOP
I told ya he would get at least 40%.

It's an off year, therefor turn out will be low.

Certainly there are enough GOPers out there to make the difference in a low turnout race. Now, if he could hold it in 2008, is a different story.

40 posted on 09/13/2007 5:37:20 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (To libs killing a windfarm is bad, letting a gal die in your Oldsmobile is not so bad)
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