Ron Paul on O'Reilly

September 10, 2007 | Vanity

[yetidog]

A good chance to see Ron outside the debate format. Not good.

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Ron Paul and Bill O'Reilly video

[padre35]

I’m on a list of extremists?

Really?

I disagree with Ron Paul’s Iraq War position, I agree with his Constitutionalist views to government.

[padre35]

It is telling that William F Buckley was against the Iraq War, he is considered the “father” of Conservatism.

That being said, the size and scope of Govt should be reduced drastically, and we simply cannot pull out of Iraq as Dr. Paul suggests.

IMO, that would be a bloodbath on our hands that “we” the US would be responsbile for, and to me, that would be immoral.

[april15Bendovr]

Thank you for making that clear.

If you are supporting the man you are also supporting his views on the war in Iraq. I don't know how you can separate the two unless you get Ron Paul to change his mind.

P.S. By the way if you get Ron Paul to change his views on supporting our troops mission in Iraq I might vote for him.

[ksen]

Ok, I listened to the interview you linked me to.

What was wrong with it in your estimation? Was it just the fact that Alex Jones was the interviewer?

I’ll also note that this interview took place on 5/31. Is there anything more recent?

[padre35]

Paul is the only candidate speaking on domestic issues in a way that I agreed with, his foreign policy is not practicable right now.

I want/ed Ron Paul to push some of the candidates issues into ones that I find compelling, less spending, no nationalized healthcare, increased individual responsiblity less national debt etc.

No other candidate was or is speaking about those things, RudyMcRomney all have ideas for even larger roles of Govt.

I know he is is not doctrinaire Pro Life, however his reasons are simply that the Federal Government has no business in passing laws (for or against) Abortion on Demand.

[april15Bendovr]

I agree with everything your saying about Ron Paul pushing the other candidates on less spending and shrinking big government.

Problem is a lot more conservatives would support Ron Paul if he wasn't the Neville Chamberlain of the Republican party.

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

ROFL. You posted to me 4-5 times in that stretch. You couldn’t just make your point in one post or what?

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

and then he votes pro-abortion and pro-amnesty.

You're smarter than this, wideawake. You know Paul voted against the abortion bills because they infringed on federalism and would have been shot down by an activist judge anyway.

[trisham]

It started here:

To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle Well, JimRob has his opinion of Paul and I have mine. If Paul was really associated with the Truthers or other left-wing groups it'd be documented by now and I wouldn't support him. It's no surprise that some of these individuals are trying to exploit his campaign as his message is different than the rest of the GOP clones. You and others can bash Paul all you want but my vote goes to him in the primaries. I value my freedom and liberty and limited gov't and so far none of the other GOP candidate except for Fred are really talking about the real issues facing America. And if you really believe the majority of American people support a long-term commitment in the Middle East, you're smoking crack. Get out of the FR bubble sometime and pay attention to Main Street USA. Decent folks are sick and tired of our troops being used as Risk board game pieces around the world.

113 posted on 09/10/2007 8:47:16 PM EDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Boycott FReeper Petronski's Wyler's! Insist on Kool-Aid! The best refreshment for Paulistinians)

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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

If Paul was really associated with the Truthers or other left-wing groups it'd be documented by now and I wouldn't support him.

Well, that is an easy one..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwFlN61XThE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_FSkc2BDrA

http://www.infowars.com/articles/us/ron_paul_live_leak_interview.htm

.. More to come..

121 posted on 09/10/2007 8:53:17 PM EDT by mnehrling (Thompson/Hunter '08- Time to have the real men in charge!)

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The interview of Paul by Alex Jones of prisonplanet is very revealing. Paul is a conspiracy nut.

289 posted on 09/11/2007 11:02:04 AM EDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)

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Notice how that was completely ignored when commenting on the relationship with 9.11Truthers and Paul and instead they only commented on the Lew Rockwell connection (or lack thereof.)

To me, the Ron Paul/Alex Jones/PrisionPlanet connection pretty much puts a nail in the coffin that Paul isn’t connected to the 9.11Truth movement. Plus, the fact he keeps going back to them for more and more interviews.

292 posted on 09/11/2007 11:06:19 AM EDT by mnehrling (Thompson/Hunter '08- Time to have the real men in charge!)

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To: trisham

Right, because we all know that prisonplanet is a reliable source that never cherrypicks quotes or misrepresents . . .

Would you consider prisonplanet reliable in all its “reporting” or just on the stuff it “reports” that you agree with?

293 posted on 09/11/2007 11:06:48 AM EDT by ksen ("For an omniscient and omnipotent God, there are no Plan B's" - Frumanchu)

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Ok, I listened to the interview you linked me to.

What was wrong with it in your estimation? Was it just the fact that Alex Jones was the interviewer?

I’ll also note that this interview took place on 5/31. Is there anything more recent?

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The point is that Paul does associate with truthers and other nutso groups. Alex Jones is a conspiracy theorist, and Paul is right there with him.

From Wikipedia:

Alexander Emerick Jones (born February 11, 1974) is an American radio host and filmmaker who is best known for his work in promotion of conspiracy theories.

Try YouTube.

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

When has Paul ever voted pro-abortion or pro-amnesty?

He hasn't. It's the typical distortion of votes that the Paul bashers use to suit their agenda. To say that Paul is pro-abortion & pro-illegal immigration is so disingenuous that it doesn't even merit a response, and these types of posts should be yanked by the Mods.

[ksen]

Thank you for rehashing all that for me.

You said Ron Paul was a conspiracy nut. I listened to the interview provided in the link you gave.

Where in that interview did you get the idea that Ron Paul is a conspiracy nut?

Is it just because it is Alex Jones conducting the interview?

Also that interview is over 3 months old. Has Ron Paul given any interviews to Alex Jones since that time?

If it’s ok to smear Paul because of who he gives interviews to is it also ok to smear the other candidates that way?

[cowtowney]

Who spent more time in active duty overseas a) George Bush or b) Ron Paul?

Are we splitting hairs? The guy served his country.

[trisham]

I’m sorry, but my time with you is done.

[takenoprisoner]

Outstanding to be on the top 26 pro freedom pro Constitution list.

Course I do believe the newbie left out some of the better defenders than me.

At any rate, I am proud to continue to meet my solemn obligation, to uphold and defend the Constitution of these United States.

tnp

[ksen]

I’m sorry, but my time with you is done.

Right . . . your refusal to provide even simple answers is noted.

I guess using your logic we should be able to pin all of George Soros' nuttiness on Fred Thompson since both are members of the CFR.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_on_Foreign_Relations#Notable_current_Council_members

[George W. Bush]

I’m on a list of extremists? Really? I disagree with Ron Paul’s Iraq War position, I agree with his Constitutionalist views to government.

Seems pretty consistent with most RP supporters here. The war is not the #1 issue and very few RP supporters here at FR agree with him 1000% on everything he says about the war or how to end it. Wars come and go and RP's positions on liberty and small-government and Austrian economics is a far greater draw, not only here but among his supporters generally. No doubt, on other forums, you'll find folks who are first and foremost antiwar (at least in Iraq) and would not support RP if he wasn't articulating a policy against the war in Iraq. I think they are a will continue to be a vocal minority. But I don't see RP supporters here in that camp. If he altered his positions and got more hawkish on the war in Iraq and provided sound reasons for it, I think his current supporters here at FR would still support him or might support him more strongly. Not that I'm an appointed spokesman or would want to be. Just my own impression.

To those who consider the war to be their absolute priority, this is unthinkable. Yet, most Americans do not consider Iraq as the final battle of Western civilization.

[George W. Bush]

Who spent more time in active duty overseas a) George Bush or b) Ron Paul? Are we splitting hairs? The guy served his country.

Both guys served their country. I don't go in for chipping away at W. on his service record. He served. He could have been deployed to Vietnam too.

And RP probably spent his time mostly as an ear/nose/throat specialist for pilots and other AF personnel, a very expensive herd of thoroughbreds whose health is very carefully tended by the Air Force. You can't have them knocked off the ready list because of ear infections and such.

I get the impression RP was mostly stateside. I'd be interested if he served overseas as a specialist, if his rotation was simply part of the military's effort to keep their staff ready or if RP was taking his turn overseas like many other specializing AF doctors. Not that it means much but it would be interesting to know more of the details.

As for how long he spent overseas, if he spent considerable time in Iran, that might lead RP to hold much stronger opinions about that country. So it is relevant in the same way that McCain's service record is when discussing his attitude and policy toward Vietnam and his visits there over the years which paved the way for Bush to visit Vietnam.

[JTN]

You know, Ron Paul gets criticized for having appeared on certain shows, like Alex Jones. But Ron Paul pretty much goes anywhere he's invited, schedule permitting and first-come-first-served in his priority. And that includes Fox News. So I don't agree with a few people who are saying he shouldn't have appeared on Fox News. Like most things about RP, he's pretty consistent about obliging all interview requests.

Point taken. As Dr. Paul has said, if he only went on shows that he agrees with, he'd have to avoid all the major networks. It's just that you know that when you go on O'Reilly's show he's going to approach it as a hit job rather than an attempt to educate his audience. You're just going to end up spending all your time on his show deflecting his BS instead of making the arguments you came to make.

[saradippity]

So in other words,Conservatives are a gang of goose stepping,stubborn,stupid,simpletons and wish to remain that way. I beg to differ,as would most Conservatives.

[cowtowney]

“Hi There Newbee...etc. “

What he said! Good job, cva.