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Ore. teacher challenging prohibition on guns
Oregon Live / AP ^
| September 10, 2007
Posted on 09/10/2007 2:32:25 PM PDT by Stoat
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posted on
09/10/2007 2:32:29 PM PDT
by
Stoat
To: Salvation
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posted on
09/10/2007 2:38:05 PM PDT
by
Stoat
(Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
To: Stoat
"We feel that would not be fostered by allowing folks, whether they have the authority or not, to bring weapons onto campus, in particular firearms loaded firearms." So, the school district thinks it has the right to disobey a state law it doesn.t like. Typical liberal attitude.
To: Stoat
This seems to hint that all students would behave badly if they found said firearm. Maybe...maybe not.
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posted on
09/10/2007 2:39:43 PM PDT
by
szweig
(Had it up to here)
To: Stoat
“Even if it’s a totally legitimate person with a legitimate permit, can you adequately guarantee that it will not fall into the hands of a student?” Moran asked. “You can’t.”
Neither can you guarantee a student or anyone else will bring a gun to school. The law makes no such guarantee but only makes those who propose it feel good that they have done something.
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posted on
09/10/2007 2:40:05 PM PDT
by
Nakota
To: Stoat
But School Board Chairman Mike Moran, a retired lieutenant with the Medford Police Department, said he's worried that the firearm could fall into the hands of a student. Sure. Look at how those kids at Columbine, Virginia Tech and other schools, took those firearms from the teachers and gunned down their classmates. /sarcasm
To: All
the teacher said she wants anonymity because she fears for her and her daughter's safety why would she think such a thing, I mean if people abhor guns they wouldn't consider using one, even on a member of the NRA!
It's our responsibility to provide a safe learning environment for our students and a safe working environment for our employees and you people who have applied for and obtained the constitutional right to carry a concealed weapon present a clear and present danger to the safety of every knife carrying student and miscreant in the school system.
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posted on
09/10/2007 2:44:20 PM PDT
by
street_lawyer
(Conservative Defender of the Faith)
To: Stoat
Moran must have gone to court to change his name from its original spelling: M-O-R-O-N.
To: Stoat
This Moran TURD is asking to prove a negative which can not be done. I would challenge him to prove that the firearm would end up in the hands of a child.
Stupid circular arguments are the best weapons liberals have. Too bad that tactic has never stopped an armed criminal.
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posted on
09/10/2007 2:48:40 PM PDT
by
oldenuff2no
(My dad ldft for Europe in)
To: Stoat
If there’s a state law overriding the local statue, what are we talking about here? This should be settled as hell. I love how the left calls the right ‘fascist’ and then rides roughshod over the democratic lawmaking process.
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posted on
09/10/2007 2:49:39 PM PDT
by
domenad
(In all things, in all ways, at all times, let honor guide me.)
To: Stoat
"It's our responsibility to provide a safe learning environment for our students and a safe working environment for our employees," Gerking said
So, what's your plan when your students, staff and buildings are attacked by a person or persons armed with guns? Hiding under your desk doesn't get the job done.
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posted on
09/10/2007 2:51:05 PM PDT
by
monkeycard
(There is no such thing as too much ammo.)
To: Stoat
"It's our responsibility to provide a safe learning environment for our students and a safe working environment for our employees," Gerking said in an interview late last week. "We FEEL that would not be fostered by allowing folks, whether they have the authority or not, to bring weapons onto campus, in particular firearms loaded firearms."Maybe if they would stop "FEELING" and start "THINKING", they would get a better prospective.
We need to make school zones into "Safety Zones", and shut down the killing fields
and, of course, they should be loaded guns--OMG!
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posted on
09/10/2007 3:00:37 PM PDT
by
basil
(Support the Second Amendment--buy another gun today!)
To: vox humana
Legalistic and humanistic arrogance from public education is typical.
Teachers who are armed would give any gunman or terrorist in a school some unexpected surprises.
Of course lives might also be saved.
But lets turn schools in prison-like fortresses and have “zero-tolerance” policies that ban nail files, then we will be safe. LOL.
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posted on
09/10/2007 3:02:38 PM PDT
by
Nextrush
(Proudly uncommitted in the 2008 race for president for now)
To: Stoat
"Because public schools are 'sanctuaries of peace', we expect our 'no guns' policy will be honored by all people, even crazed ex-husband."
Signed,
THE SCHOOL DISTRICT
To: Stoat
But School Board Chairman Mike Moran, a retired lieutenant with the Medford Police Department, said he's worried that the firearm could fall into the hands of a student. "Even if it's a totally legitimate person with a legitimate permit, can you adequately guarantee that it will not fall into the hands of a student?" Moran asked. "You can't."
So by that line of thinking, LEO's should not be exempt either, I mean what's to guarantee an Officer doesn't loose their sidearm? Mr Moran is a pompous ass...
To: vox humana
"We feel that would not be fostered by allowing folks, whether they have the authority or not, to bring weapons onto campus, in particular firearms loaded firearms."Would this statement include police officers? They have the authority to carry guns. Also, if someone doesn't have the authority to legally carry, wouldn't it follow that they already aren't allowed to bring their guns on campus?
And let us not forget to notice the beginning of the statement, "We feel..." Facts don't matter, only feeeeelings.
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posted on
09/10/2007 3:13:24 PM PDT
by
Disambiguator
(What's the temperature, Albert?)
To: Stoat
"It's our responsibility to provide a safe learning environment for our students and a safe working environment for our employees... We feel that would not be fostered by allowing folks, whether they have the authority or not, to bring weapons onto campus, in particular firearms loaded firearms."*snip*
"Even if it's a totally legitimate person with a legitimate permit, can you adequately guarantee that it will not fall into the hands of a student?" Moran asked. "You can't."
So I assume they don't let armed police officers on campus, either?
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posted on
09/10/2007 3:35:01 PM PDT
by
Sloth
(You being wrong & me being closed-minded are not mutually exclusive.)
To: Stoat
**A high school teacher in southern Oregon plans to challenge a school district policy that prevents her from carrying a gun on school grounds.**
Won’t happen in southern Oregon, hate to tell her.
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posted on
09/10/2007 4:48:33 PM PDT
by
Salvation
(†With God all things are possible.†)
To: Stoat; abcraghead; aimhigh; Archie Bunker on steroids; bicycle thug; blackie; coffeebreak; ...
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posted on
09/10/2007 4:49:40 PM PDT
by
Salvation
(†With God all things are possible.†)
To: Salvation
Thank you very much for pinging your list :-)
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posted on
09/10/2007 4:58:40 PM PDT
by
Stoat
(Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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