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To: VaBthang4

This is not the place to argue it, but you are confused. Of course all men are sinners, but Jesus also said that Peter was the Rock on which He would found His Church, and also that He would be with His Church until the end of time, and that the Gates of Hell would not prevail against it.

As the annunciatory angels said to both Abraham and the father of John the Baptist, “With God, all things are possible.”

It is perfectly possible for God to prevent any pope from spreading heresy, even though a few popes were serious sinners.


54 posted on 09/10/2007 3:03:21 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero

Brother listen, this is a friendly head’s up...if you want to stay locked into the choice of believing [see not knowing] a manmade catholic faith, then you do not want engage me on the issue of the truth.

I’m not trying to be cocky but it is what it is...I’m just letting you know.

Simon or Peter or Shimon or Keipha or Cephas depending upon who you are...after being reinstated in the faith by Jesus himself, eventually travelled Joppa, Lydia, Ninevah [along with Thomas], Antioch [where we were first termed Christians-not Rome], Corinth, Tripolis and Caesarea [to name a few] and served as a witness for Jesus Christ in a great many places and established physical churches in doing so.

The notion that one of the later churches [that claims] Peter assisted in establishing them has somehow cornered the market on revelation and established a system of administration that runs contrary to the Bible itself, is laughable to the point of derision and is simply to be dismissed out of hand.

Outright rejection of the Word coupled with willful ignorance maintains the notion that a born in sin individual is somehow infallible in any aspect of his personal life or ministry.
It is a catholic doctrine [see man made] that is 180 degrees contrary to the Bible and in the end just plain comical.

As an aside, I find it amusing that the very individual that the catholic church claims as it’s head, was himself a married man...yet, the catholic church has long since instituted a moronic rule that prevents the very men charged with ministering the catholic doctrine from having the same.

You guys have gotten so far off the reservation that you are more like the scribes, sadducees [Tsdoki] and pharisees [prushim] that opposed Jesus than you are Jesus himself.

Sad but true.

I’d venture an educated guess that He [Jesus] could stroll right into The Basilica of St. John Lateran, begin ministering the Word and a great many of you would immediately begin gnashing your teeth, beating your chests, covering your ears and in a furious, self-righteous rage...

...accuse him of heresy.


64 posted on 09/11/2007 8:43:05 AM PDT by VaBthang4 ("He Who Watches Over Israel Will Neither Slumber Nor Sleep")
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