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Wow, a major point of contention over Bush foreign policy by the MSM and other liberals and it gets almost no coverage. Boy am I suprised.
1 posted on 09/09/2007 5:01:27 PM PDT by Delacon
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To: Delacon

How many years has the north had to prepare for this?


2 posted on 09/09/2007 5:04:22 PM PDT by kinoxi
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To: Delacon
6 years since 9-11,Libya caves,Afghanistan is an ally,Iraq also,North Korea gives up,Iran is surrounded.

Not bad,not bad at all.

6 posted on 09/09/2007 5:29:18 PM PDT by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve,and have served,to keep us free)
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The nuclear progress is major, yet the news story somwehow ties that to an apparent disagreement between Bush and the S Korean president. The two items are almost unrelated, the media is just trying to hide the good story.

Kind of like "On a day when Winston Churchill publicly disagreed with President Truman's choice of wardrobe, Truman accepted Japan's unconditional surrender". It's that absurd.

7 posted on 09/09/2007 5:30:16 PM PDT by Williams
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To: Delacon
The announcement came just as South Korean President Moo Hyun Roh and President Bush, meeting at the Asia-Pacific summit in Australia, publicly clashed over why the United States has never formally declared an end to the Korean War.

Now that's a showing of appreciation for ya'!

12 posted on 09/09/2007 6:13:15 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Delacon
Jimmuh Carter screwed this up...
Maddy Halfbright screwed this up...
B.J. Clinton screwed this up...
Bill Richardson screwed this up....

And every freaking Democrat has been telling Little Bush how to fix it........

Now - on Little Bush’s watch — are we nearing the defanging of a starving North Korea?

Maybe..... Unless we put another pansy Democrat in the White House — and more of the bastards in Congress.

13 posted on 09/09/2007 6:29:09 PM PDT by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: Delacon

I've already told you Hans Brix, we have not weapons of mass destruction.

17 posted on 09/09/2007 7:05:03 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: Delacon
You would think a far away Peninsula where so much American blood has been shed, where so many American soldiers are currently stationed, where so many of the lower half of that country's immigrants are in our United States, that we Americans would have known a LOT MORE about that place, KOREA, by now. It is shameful.

Lack of information, and ignorance, are the building blocks for wider naivete.

How many times do we have to be fooled.

True regime change was the ONLY credible fashion to correct this situation. It is becoming more and more of a distant, pipe dream, as State Department appeasement takes complete control. You couldn't MAKE this stuff up.

19 posted on 09/09/2007 7:19:55 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Visit this thread 1-hour from now. In that time, an average of 416.6 more ILLEGALS will be in the US)
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TLR, if you have time, you are needed over there.

As our Freeper Emeritus on Korean Issues, with unchallengeable credentials and understanding of DPRK tactics, history, methodology and the "big picture" on Korean things, we need some additional input and balance on this.

22 posted on 09/09/2007 7:35:12 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Visit this thread 1-hour from now. In that time, an average of 416.6 more ILLEGALS will be in the US)
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To: Delacon
N. Korea declares a few nuclear sites well known to U.S. intelligence, and may a small amount of uranium from somewhere, and insists that they are all N. Korea got.

Do you believe it? Can you demand more intrusive inspection? N. Korea has thousands of underground facilities. Many are not known to outsiders. Who knows what they stored in those bunkers and caves. There are extensive underground facilities in Jagang, Yanggang, N. and S. Hamkyong Province. All military related, munition production, missile production, underground military base, and nuclear facilities.

Can America pinpoint which nuke facilities are where and what nuclear material(warhead, component) are located where? Can U.S. demand the inspection of all suspected sites?

Is U.S. so sure that N. Korea would not resort to extreme form of hide-and-seek or shell game? If so, it is utterly naive.

If U.S. knows N. Korea is up to no good and demand more transparency, what would U.S. do if N. Korea would threaten to pull the plug out of inspection? Can U.S. call the bluff? Or does it cave and stop short of real inspection?

What U.S. is doing in E. Asia is rather simple. It cannot economically pressure S. Korea and China to rein in N. Korea because it will ruin god-d*mn inflated financial portfolio in U.S.. however small willingness Bush has to get tough on these appeasing players, I suspect it was all but wiped out by multinationals and financial institutions, scared of financial shock it will generate.

U.S. lives on precariously maintained financial bubble which is really sensitive to any non-trivial international conflict. Many get their fill from bubble-generated income, extremely risk-averse, due to precarious nature of financial market. This also creates dangerous complacency to play down brewing national security crisis. The extent some Americans go to justify this completely failed policy is beyond me.

29 posted on 09/09/2007 11:11:02 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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