Posted on 09/08/2007 9:17:32 PM PDT by blogsforthompson.com
The longer, the more detailed, the more legalesque, the more nuanced of a legal explanation/clarification that he gives on why 'illegals are NOT really illegal',,,the better. I'm sure he'll build even more support for his candidacy with that one. /s
I hope the other candidates give him the floor for a long, long, LONG TIME ON THAT ONE!!!!!....lol
I'm sure his explanation will help encourage and attract EVEN MORE ILLEGALS to our country (and sanctuary cities like his). Unbelievable.
Uh, he’s right.
hmmmmmmm maybe Rudi needs a reading lesson ...
now Rudi say after me....illegal means NOT legal
ummmm that would make it a CRIME.
now heres your blankie ...go to bed.
Why all the hate for Rudy? Those were probably quotes taken out of context or misinterpreted by the left wing activist media. Even if it weren’t... there’s NO candidate that will take a serious stance against illegal infestation except maybe Tancredo. Rudy may not be the perfect candidate but IMO, he’s the best candidate that will eliminate the #1 threat that America faces today which is Islamofacists who want to slaughter us.
I don’t think there’s hatred for Rudy, just many who think he has too many stances at odds with the Republican base, which ain’t in NY or any other blue state.
And several of us aren’t saying that his legal technicality is correct or incorrect. I don’t care, but I do think that it’s foolish for him or any other candidate to even go into this legal technicality discussion. Most whose vote he seeks think it’s wrong no matter what the technical legal term is and his eggheaded discussion of the matter will only turn off some voters.
And he’d hurting his candidacy with such discussions. Those of us who’d rather have another Republican candidate see some humor in that, and wouldn’t mind if he continues discussing such legal technicalities. As is said above, maybe next he’d like to explain why the amnesty in the shamnesty bill really wasn’t amnesty, ala McCain. We know ho much it helped McCain.
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As far as Fred Thompson goes didn't he support the McCain -Feingold restriction on free speech bill?
Rudy Giuliani says Illegal Immigration should NOT be a Crime
how to commit political suicide!!!!
Really? Well then, why discriminate? If 12,000,000 Islamic Jihadists were to enter our country — in a civil manner, without weapons or obvious hateful intent — should we institute a “don’t ask - don’t tell” policy as a humanitarian courtesy?
Maybe they could draw welfare while they build their bombs.
‘illegal - - not crime - - “
Head hurts - -
What an unbelievably stupid thing to say. I am so tired of hearing about having to round up, prosecute or incarcerate 12,000,000 people. It is a bogus argument. If we end their jobs they will leave, end of story! We need to stop playing nice with that corrupt cesspool to the south and get tough on this issue. Mexico is NOT our friend.
Here's two more fakes that crossed the wild blue border.
Apparently there are regular FR posters who are willing to lie about Fred's record, which is very disappointing. I realize that some FR posters are ardent supporters of other candidates and that's OK, but I had not expected outright lies.
Thanks again for correcting my error, I won't be as gullible next time I read something derogatory about Fred even if it comes via a FReepmail.
Thompson has addressed this a thousand times, including just a few days ago.
He said his support was a mistake.
Apparently I was given some false, misleading information about Fred's voting record, see #14.
But as for your question I quoted above, I don't want any more 3rd world immigrants coming here legally or illegally who refuse to learn our language or assimilate into American society as all previous immigrants have. I'm sick and tired of hearing "press one for English" and seeing entire sections of American cities turned into 3rd world enclaves where English is the foreign language and native-born Americans are the foreigners.
If I wanted to live in a nation run by an obscenely rich oligarchy that deliberately keeps it's peasant class living in poverty and squalor I would immigrate to Mexico. But I don't, and I don't want my nation turned into a carbon copy of Mexico by unrestricted immigration for the benefit of American employers who want cheap labor no matter what harm it may cause for other Americans. If that makes me an intolerant racist bigot so be it.
Rudy puts this whole hullabaloo to rest with this exchange:
GIULIANI: Glenn, being an illegal immigrant, the 400,000 were not prosecuted for crimes by the federal government, nor could they be. I was U.S. attorney in the southern district of New York. So believe me, I know this. In fact, when you throw an immigrant out of the country, it’s not a criminal proceeding. It’s a civil proceeding.
GLENN: Is it —
GIULIANI: One of the things that congress wanted to do a year ago is to make it a crime, which indicates that it isn’t.
GLENN: Should it be?
GIULIANI: Should it be? No, it shouldn’t be because the government wouldn’t be able to prosecute it. We couldn’t prosecute 12 million people. We have only 2 million people in jail right now for all the crimes that are committed in the country, 2.5 million. If you were to make it a crime, you would have to take the resources of the criminal justice system and increase it by about 6. In other words, you’d have to take all the 800,000 police, and who knows how many police we would have to have.
GLENN: So what’s your solution?
GIULIANI: My solution is close the border to illegal immigration.
GLENN: So what’s your solution?
GIULIANI: My solution is close the border to illegal immigration.
GLENN: How do you do that?
GIULIANI: You do that by building a fence, a physical fence and a technological fence, and the technological fence is more important than the physical fence. The technological fence would alert you to illegals approaching the border well in advance so the border patrol can get there and stop them. You deploy the border patrol every 50 miles along the border. I’ve already outlined this on a map. I did this in detail about two weeks ago. And then you have the border patrol stop people from coming in, literally stop them from coming in. If you did that for a year or two, you would end it. You also have a tamperproof ID card that every person from a foreign country should have that comes into the United States. The goal has to be, yes, you’re allowed to come to the United States but you have to identify yourself before we let you in, and we have to be sure you’re a safe person. And then if you come in, you’ll be in the computer base, you’ll be able to work, you will have to pay your fair share, you’ll have to pay taxes but we have to end it right at the border by having the resources to stop people from just walking into this country and not identifying themselves. Only the federal government can do this. If the federal government doesn’t do this, there is no way that the local governments in this country can handle it other than in a practical way. If you make people that are just going to be here for the next 20 years, if you put them in a situation of danger and risk, you’re going to have more crime in your communities.
I’m amazed at how many people on this thread didn’t even take the time to read the article.
Knee jerks rule on FR>
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