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Bin Laden Expert: He's Winning (BARF)
SeeBS ^ | 09/08/07 | SEEBS

Posted on 09/08/2007 7:39:57 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3

(CBS) "People of America," he says, "lend me your ears."

So says the most wanted man in the world, Osama bin Laden, appearing in a new videotape which has surfaced nearly six years after the attacks of September 11, 2001.

In it, he rails against Western corporations, neoconservatives, and Democrats in Congress, telling Americans they had voted for Democrats to stop the war, but in his words, the majority party hasn’t made a move worth mentioning.

CBS News consultant Michael Scheuer, a former CIA analyst and author of "Imperial Hubris: Why the West Is Losing the War on Terror" and "Through Our Enemies' Eyes: Osama bin Laden, Radical Islam, and the Future of America" (Potomac), has been critical of the administration's efforts to capture bin Laden, and says the newly-released video shows an al Qaeda leader taunting the U.S. for failing to catch him.

Scheuer spent years tracking al Qaeda as the head of the CIA's bin Laden unit.

Discussing the video with CBS Saturday Early Show anchor Maggie Rodriguez, Scheuer said, "First of all, the setting is very relaxed, very comfortable. He is not in his camouflaged jacket. There's no rifle. What he is trying to say is that he is under no pressure from the Americans. The Americans are failing in their effort to kill him, and in their effort to destroy al Qaeda."

Of our progress in battling al Qaeda, Scheuer said, "It points directly to the fact that we failed utterly in Afghanistan to send enough either intelligence officers or military people.

"You know, we have about 30,000 troops there, and we've asked them to defeat the Taliban, keep President Karzai's government in power, build a democracy, eradicate the opium industry - and in their spare time go after Osama bin Laden."

The mere appearance of bin Laden, four years after the last new video recording and six years after the 9/11 attacks, "is the reminder of a failed policy."

The tape's script seems calculated to authenticate its currency by including pointed references to the British Prime Minister Gordon Brown and French President Nicolas Sarkozy, both of whom took office earlier this year.

Informed sources tell CBS News they now believe he is holed up in a rugged no-man's land in Northern Pakistan.

"Well, I think they're blowing a little bit of smoke," Scheuer said. "They have to say something now that he is back in the public eye, but if you look at the territory, it is impossible to find any single person up there, and we don't have enough people to do it, and we respect Pakistan's sovereignty. I guess they're not going to go into Pakistan."

Bin Laden makes mention of Scheuer's writings, saying in the tape, "If you would like to get to know what some of the reasons for your losing your war against us, then read the book by Michael Scheuer."

Scheuer said the referral makes the point that the former CIA analyst communicates what recent American presidents have not said about the nation's war against Islamic fundamentalism.

"The war is motivated on the enemy's side by the impact of our policies," he said. "It's not about democracy. It's not about women's rights. It's not about freedom or elections. It has everything to do with the impact of our foreign policy in the Muslim world. It's not to say that our policy is wrong, it's simply to try to understand the motivation of your enemy."

The Intel Center, an independent analysis group which has studied the tape, said that bin Laden makes no overt threat, no indication of an impending attack upon America or its citizens. Homeland Security Director Michael Chertoff has also said there is no reason to push the panic button now.

But Scheuer is not convinced.

"The Intel Center is almost always right," he said. "I think there's an overwhelming threat in it. Bin laden, again, offered us a chance to convert to Islam, which is required in their religion before they attack us. So to say there's no threat in this message is just 180 degrees incorrect."

And the timing of the message, on the eve of the anniversary of the September 11 attacks, "is not a coincidence at all."

"He is gloating. They think they're winning, and I think they're probably correct at the moment."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: cia; hesdeadjim; osama; scheuer; waronterror
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To: Spunky
"Me thinks something is wrong here. Also from the short video I saw it looked to me like he had beard growth all the way up to his eyes. Looked very phoney. Like the Santa Clause beard."


41 posted on 09/08/2007 12:45:03 PM PDT by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: TornadoAlley3
That video was made by a pimple faced geek in his mom’s basement with MovieMaker. He’s having a deservedly good laugh at all of us!
42 posted on 09/08/2007 12:46:50 PM PDT by avacado
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To: Spunky
The 2004 video is different. He is wearing similar clothing, but his beard is longer and grey.

On the left is an actual image from the 2004 video.

It is possible that the new video is a heavily processed version of the same video, since it wouldn't take too much computer equipment to digitally transform the 2004 video, the second picture you posted is, I believe, incorrectly identified as coming from 2004. The second image is from the new video.

43 posted on 09/08/2007 12:51:29 PM PDT by MediaMole
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To: denydenydeny
Think about it if he commented that he found this a desperation move by Bin Ladans org. or a phony tape the MSM would have no use for him.
44 posted on 09/08/2007 12:53:47 PM PDT by mimaw
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To: Spunky

WOW! Can I just call you Buckhead? Amazing find; my only question is why isn’t this already in the MSM? All those stupid talking heads obsessed with the color of his beard and not one of them even IMAGINED it might be an old vid??


45 posted on 09/08/2007 1:08:05 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Spunky

Whoops, I didn’t read down far enough. Seems you had two of the same images. Oh well. I WANTED you to be another Buckhead!


46 posted on 09/08/2007 1:10:50 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: avacado

47 posted on 09/08/2007 2:19:59 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 ( An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping that it will eat him last..)
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To: momf

ping


48 posted on 09/08/2007 2:35:17 PM PDT by CHEE (You don't have to practice to be miserable.)
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To: Spunky; All
In looking at an older picture of OBL and looking at the current one from the new video, I'm having a hard time convincing myself it's the same person.

1.) The nose - - in the older picture, his nose has a curve to the right. In the current one, the nose curves to the left.

2.) The eyebrows are not shaped the same. Also, the eyes are not shaped the same.

3.) The beard - - in the older picture, there are two small gaps in his beard under his lower lip. In the current picture, though the quality is not the best, those gaps aren't apparent.

Body double?

It's definitely not Gadahn. But after reading the transcript of OBL's latest speech, I'm not certain Gadahn didn't write it. The wording sounds more like something he would come up with. Not really like OBL's past speeches.

Analysts are saying it's OBL's voice on the video so I just don't know what to think about the whole thing. Did they just dub over the previous video?
But OBL did say the next time we saw him would be when they attack us again. My feeling is that simply the appearance of the video is the "go signal".
I do hope I am wrong.

49 posted on 09/08/2007 3:02:14 PM PDT by radu (May God watch over our troops and keep them safe)
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To: Buckhead
I think I'm well qualified to explain what is the root of Islamic extremism - been doing it for a while - problem is that I don't have a platform - I also know how to defeat it completely in South and Southeast Asia at least.

An American Expat in Southeast Asia

50 posted on 09/08/2007 3:51:57 PM PDT by expatguy (Support Conservative Blogging - "An American Expat in Southeast Asia")
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To: denydenydeny
NO ONE who worked in the CIA just prior to 9/11 has ANY competence in intelligence matters to lecture anyone about anything.

The CIA Office of the Inspector General agrees with you in general terms and about Michael Scheuer specifically.

51 posted on 09/08/2007 4:26:15 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (NYT Headline: Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS: Fake but Accurate, Experts Say)
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To: Yaelle
"Seems you had two of the same images..."

I didn't have two of the same images. Evidently 2 different papers had the same image and one said it was from 2004 and the other said it was from latest video.

52 posted on 09/08/2007 5:03:11 PM PDT by Spunky ("Everyone has a freedom of choice, but not of consequences.")
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