Bin Laden Expert: He's Winning (BARF)

SeeBS ^ | 09/08/07 | SEEBS

[Earthdweller]

"Me thinks something is wrong here. Also from the short video I saw it looked to me like he had beard growth all the way up to his eyes. Looked very phoney. Like the Santa Clause beard."

[avacado]

That video was made by a pimple faced geek in his mom’s basement with MovieMaker. He’s having a deservedly good laugh at all of us!

[MediaMole]

The 2004 video is different. He is wearing similar clothing, but his beard is longer and grey.

On the left is an actual image from the 2004 video.

It is possible that the new video is a heavily processed version of the same video, since it wouldn't take too much computer equipment to digitally transform the 2004 video, the second picture you posted is, I believe, incorrectly identified as coming from 2004. The second image is from the new video.

[mimaw]

Think about it if he commented that he found this a desperation move by Bin Ladans org. or a phony tape the MSM would have no use for him.

[Yaelle]

WOW! Can I just call you Buckhead? Amazing find; my only question is why isn’t this already in the MSM? All those stupid talking heads obsessed with the color of his beard and not one of them even IMAGINED it might be an old vid??

[Yaelle]

Whoops, I didn’t read down far enough. Seems you had two of the same images. Oh well. I WANTED you to be another Buckhead!

[TornadoAlley3]

[CHEE]

ping

[radu]

In looking at an older picture of OBL and looking at the current one from the new video, I'm having a hard time convincing myself it's the same person.

1.) The nose - - in the older picture, his nose has a curve to the right. In the current one, the nose curves to the left.

2.) The eyebrows are not shaped the same. Also, the eyes are not shaped the same.

3.) The beard - - in the older picture, there are two small gaps in his beard under his lower lip. In the current picture, though the quality is not the best, those gaps aren't apparent.

Body double?

It's definitely not Gadahn. But after reading the transcript of OBL's latest speech, I'm not certain Gadahn didn't write it. The wording sounds more like something he would come up with. Not really like OBL's past speeches.

Analysts are saying it's OBL's voice on the video so I just don't know what to think about the whole thing. Did they just dub over the previous video?
But OBL did say the next time we saw him would be when they attack us again. My feeling is that simply the appearance of the video is the "go signal".
I do hope I am wrong.

[expatguy]

I think I'm well qualified to explain what is the root of Islamic extremism - been doing it for a while - problem is that I don't have a platform - I also know how to defeat it completely in South and Southeast Asia at least.

An American Expat in Southeast Asia

[Lonesome in Massachussets]

NO ONE who worked in the CIA just prior to 9/11 has ANY competence in intelligence matters to lecture anyone about anything.

The CIA Office of the Inspector General agrees with you in general terms and about Michael Scheuer specifically.

[Spunky]

"Seems you had two of the same images..."

I didn't have two of the same images. Evidently 2 different papers had the same image and one said it was from 2004 and the other said it was from latest video.