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Bin Laden Expert: He's Winning (BARF)
SeeBS ^ | 09/08/07 | SEEBS

Posted on 09/08/2007 7:39:57 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3

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To: TornadoAlley3
In it, he rails against Western corporations, neoconservatives, and Democrats in Congress, telling Americans they had voted for Democrats to stop the war, but in his words, the majority party hasn’t made a move worth mentioning.

Sounds a lot like our own domestic liberal activists. In fact, exactly like them. You'd think they'd realize that when they say things which echo this murderous outlaw that it would prompt them to think they might need to reexamine their own world view.

21 posted on 09/08/2007 8:29:57 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: TornadoAlley3

It was Michael Scheuer’s job to get bin Laden - - he didn’t.


22 posted on 09/08/2007 8:31:06 AM PDT by Beckwith (dhimmicrats and the liberal media have .chosen sides -- Islamofascism)
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To: Spunky

He dyed it - wants to look younger and more photogenic.


23 posted on 09/08/2007 8:31:28 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Spunky

Adam Gadahn - - it’s not.


24 posted on 09/08/2007 8:32:27 AM PDT by Beckwith (dhimmicrats and the liberal media have .chosen sides -- Islamofascism)
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To: Buckhead
Not to mention that Scheuer believes that blowing up women and children in the marketplaces worldwide is somehow “winning”?
25 posted on 09/08/2007 8:34:55 AM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: TornadoAlley3
Scheuer’s a bipartisan moron.

On another subject, a new story from a detainee at Gitmo claims Bin Laden escaped Tora Bora 2 days after the first airstrikes and not the months the Rats claim.

26 posted on 09/08/2007 8:42:54 AM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: w1andsodidwe

It is so assinine to say that OBL and his thugs are winning. The a-wipe lives in a friggin cave. A CAVE!!!!!!


27 posted on 09/08/2007 8:47:18 AM PDT by shankbear (Al-Qaeda grew while Monica blew)
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To: Buckhead

Scheuer is an ass clown of the first order and more. What an idiot bureaucRAT that never managed to get the job done and typically blames those that are attempting to fix the mess Scheuer and the rest of the CIA clowns failed to do!
He sounds like the typical Leftard claiming that he is a real Conservative....


28 posted on 09/08/2007 8:49:57 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: TornadoAlley3

Scheuer is also the one who reported that Clinton refused to let us hit OBL when we had him in our sights...


29 posted on 09/08/2007 9:01:52 AM PDT by moonhawk (Fear and Loathing in '08: Hunter/Thompson)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Scheuer is also the one who reported that Clinton refused to let us hit OBL when we had him in our sights...


30 posted on 09/08/2007 9:01:56 AM PDT by moonhawk (Fear and Loathing in '08: Hunter/Thompson)
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To: moonhawk

Oops...sorry for the double post!


31 posted on 09/08/2007 9:03:05 AM PDT by moonhawk (Fear and Loathing in '08: Hunter/Thompson)
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To: elhombrelibre

“He sounds like a RUN Paul voter.”

Not quite; Scheuer participated in the following exchange on the FOX News program The O’Reilly Factor:

O’REILLY: I’m bringing it up to be - to show the Islamic world and those Muslims who are watching us right now, the inconsistency of their thought that, if there was a - you know, a God that was actually wanting them to do whatever, how could he possibly want them to...

SCHEUER: No, I don’t quite follow it, sir, because I — as much as I’d like to believe that human life is sacred in all instances, war, whether it’s conducted by Americans or by British or by Chinese or by Muslims, war is just war. And it kills innocent people. And that’s the way it is.

O’REILLY: But there’s a way to wage it. And the way that the al Qaedas are waging it is by killing civilians. They’re not waging war in a conventional way, as you know. Now...

SCHEUER: Well, they are waging war in the conventional way that we waged war until 1945, sir, which is the last war we’ve won. Once we stopped waging war in the American fashion, we haven’t won a war since....

O’REILLY: Is there anything we can do to win it?

SCHEUER: Yes, sir. We certainly have to kill more of the enemy. That’s the first step.

O’REILLY: Any way we can?

SCHEUER: Anywhere we can, whenever we can, without a great deal of concern for civilian casualties. As I said, war is war. The people who got killed when they were hosting Zawahiri to dinner were not the friends of the United States.

O’REILLY: All right, Mr Scheuer, always a pleasure to talk with you.


32 posted on 09/08/2007 9:40:36 AM PDT by Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek
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To: All; Beckwith
"Adam Gadahn - - it’s not.


Adam Gadahn


Osama bin Laden
A still image taken from the new video tape
RTE News


This picture of Osama bin Laden is from an undated 2004
video broadcast by Arab TV station Al-Jazeera.
Kansas City

Look at these two pictures of Osama. One says it is from the Newly released video and one says it is from 2004.

Me thinks something is wrong here. Also from the short video I saw it looked to me like he had beard growth all the way up to his eyes. Looked very phoney. Like the Santa Clause beard.

Anyone have the newest picture of Osama?

33 posted on 09/08/2007 9:41:48 AM PDT by Spunky ("Everyone has a freedom of choice, but not of consequences.")
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To: TornadoAlley3
Michael Scheuer is an extreme Lefty. Naturally the MSM loves him.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

34 posted on 09/08/2007 9:43:42 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: elhombrelibre

“He sounds like a RUN Paul voter.”

Perhaps so, but I wonder. Here is Scheuer on Richard Clark:

* “Clarke’s book [Against All Enemies] is also a crucial complement to the September 11 panel’s failure to condemn Mr. Clinton’s failure to capture or kill bin Laden on any of the eight to 10 chances afforded by CIA reporting. Mr. Clarke never mentions that President Bush had no chances to kill bin Laden before September 11 and leaves readers with the false impression that he, Mr. Clinton and Mr. Clinton’s national security adviser, Sandy Berger, did their best to end the bin Laden threat. That trio, in my view, abetted al Qaeda, and if the September 11 families were smart they would focus on the dereliction of Dick [Clarke], Bill [Clinton] and Sandy [Berger] and not the antics of convicted September 11 conspirator Zacarias Moussaoui.”[6]

Also, on October 1, 2006, Michael Scheuer appeared on Fox News Sunday and had the following exchange with host Chris Wallace:

WALLACE: Mr. Scheuer, as the man in charge of what was called “Alec Station,” the CIA unit in charge of hunting down Usama bin Laden, you say the Clinton administration missed at least 10 chances to get him. I don’t want to go into all 10, but what was the problem?

FORMER CIA UNIT CHIEF MICHAEL SCHEUER: Well, the president is correct, in that he got - President Clinton is correct that he got closer than anyone, but, of course, he always refused to pull the trigger. And in addition, we were never authorized, while I was the chief of operations, to kill Usama bin Laden. In fact, Mr. Richard Clarke definitely told us we had no authorization to kill bin Laden.

Why they didn’t shoot, of course, is, at least from Mr. Tenet’s viewpoint it was because one time they were afraid to have shrapnel hit a mosque when they killed bin Laden. And two other times I think they were afraid they actually would have to do something, so they warned the emirates on one occasion, the princes from the United Arab Emirates, to move so we couldn’t attack bin Laden.

WALLACE: They were on a hunting trip with bin Laden.

SCHEUER: Yes, sir. And Richard Clarke called the emirates and warned them that they should get out of that area, which cost us the chance to kill him.

WALLACE: In your opinion, as somebody who was up close and personal, why didn’t the Clinton administration go after Al Qaeda after the USS Cole?

SCHEUER: Mr. Wallace, my opinion is not all that important. I went to a little Jesuit school in Buffalo called Canisius, and the priests taught us never to lie, but if you had to lie, never lie about facts. Mr. Richard Clarke, Mr. Sandy Berger, President Clinton are lying about the opportunities they had to kill Usama bin Laden. That’s the plain truth, the exact truth.

Men and women at the CIA risked their lives to provide occasions to kill a man we knew had declared war and had attacked America four or five times before 1998. We had plans that had been approved by the Joint Operations Command at Fort Bragg. We had opportunities, many opportunities to kill him.

But that’s the president’s decision. That’s absolutely the case. It’s not a simple, dumb bureaucrat like me; that’s not my decision. It’s his. But for him to get on the television and say to the American people he did all he could is a flat lie, sir.


35 posted on 09/08/2007 9:45:47 AM PDT by Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek
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To: goldstategop; TornadoAlley3

“Michael Scheuer is an extreme Lefty. Naturally the MSM loves him.”

That first statement is so much at odds with the facts that it is like a man standing in front of a wall painted green, pointing at it, and saying “This is an orange wall”.


36 posted on 09/08/2007 10:06:54 AM PDT by Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek
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To: TornadoAlley3

Someone who, if he really is still alive, has to look over his shoulder 24/7 to avoid a bullet or guided missile, is NOT winning.


37 posted on 09/08/2007 10:08:28 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch (yahoo picks football --> http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1886539/posts)
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To: Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek
SCHEUER: Yes, sir. We certainly have to kill more of the enemy. That’s the first step.

It is very funny how everyone on here goes after Scheuer for being a lefty when in reality he is very much to the extreme right on most of the issues we are facing re: Bin laden. His book is a great read and those on FR would benefit greatly by reading it.

38 posted on 09/08/2007 10:22:07 AM PDT by killjoy (Life sucks, wear a helmet.)
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To: TornadoAlley3
Um, I'm just glad Scheuer is former CIA. Idiot.
39 posted on 09/08/2007 10:22:24 AM PDT by khnyny (Hillary has given Bill a new title: Chief Flying Monkey)
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To: killjoy

SCHEUER: Yes, sir. We certainly have to kill more of the enemy. That’s the first step.

“It is very funny how everyone on here goes after Scheuer for being a lefty when in reality he is very much to the extreme right on most of the issues we are facing re: Bin laden. His book is a great read and those on FR would benefit greatly by reading it.”

Yes, his testimony is a lot like this fellow featured in Jamie Glazov’s interview:
http://frontpagemag.com/Articles/Printable.aspx?GUID=548C019C-3F1A-41DB-ACBB-D8B2F7FBFC71

The Clinton Censors

By Jamie Glazov
FrontPageMagazine.com | 9/7/2007
Frontpage Interview’s guest today is Cyrus Nowrasteh, the writer/producer of the ABC 6-hour miniseries The Path to 9/11 which aired last September, 2006. He has worked in television and motion pictures for a number of years, won two PEN awards for Best Teleplay, and specializes in history and docudrama.


40 posted on 09/08/2007 10:31:48 AM PDT by Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek
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