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Wrapping my head around Fred
Townhall.com ^ | September 8, 2007 | Jonah Goldberg

Posted on 09/08/2007 4:44:42 AM PDT by Kaslin

Well, Fred Dalton Thompson finally made it official, on the "Tonight Show" of all places: He's running for president. Though so far it's been more like strolling for president.

I like Thompson, but I've been pretty much immune to his cult of personality. It's amazing: Just say "I don't get it" about the man, and some Thompson fans will react like you disputed the wholesomeness of their mother's recreational habits.

I still don't really get the hoopla over the guy, but now that he's officially in the race, I'm giving it a try.

Until recently, pundits - including yours truly - chalked up Thompson's successful non-candidacy to Republicans' dissatisfaction with their choices. Thompson, a folksy actor with considerable communication skill - some say he's "Reaganesque" - was seen as the GOP's white knight, even its savior.

One problem is that Thompson took a really long time getting into the race, and white knights and saviors usually don't spend endless months lollygagging on the shady side of their "testing the waters" committee. Sir Lancelot didn't wait for just the right weather, after all. Thompson's critics point to this as Exhibit A in the case that Thompson is "lazy."

Thompson's response to the criticism is that he's in second place without raising tens or hundreds of millions of dollars as the experts said he had to. So what do they know? And, as he told Jay Leno, "I don't think people are going to say, ŒYou know, that guy would make a very good president, but he just didn't get in soon enough.'"

It's a good line and a good point, but it leaves out an important consideration. Politics is about seizing your moment. By taking this long, Thompson's Hamlet act may have cooled the ardor among his strongest supporters (and royally ticked off New Hampshire Republicans). He may be able to win over the uncommitted, but he also might have cost himself those he had at "hello" by saying "maybe" for so long. True believers are prized commodities in politics, and once their passions cool, they lose most of their value. Only time will tell if he's hurt himself.

The question for his competitors is, can they hurt him? Which brings us back to this laziness charge. The notion that Thompson doesn't have the "fire in the belly" to run for president has been bandied about Washington for a long time. But is it really a character flaw to think twice about jumping into the primary mosh pit earlier than necessary?

Mitt Romney, who's been running since dinosaurs ruled the Earth, thinks so, though he is more threatened by Thompson than his better-known rivals are. In response, Romney is running ads touting his "energy" and is whispering through surrogates that Thompson's lethargy is his Achilles' heel.

I'm not so sure. The laziness charge was always an inside-baseball criticism among politicos. Thompson doesn't have a lazy man's resume. Moreover, he can easily rebut the charge by simply reminding primary voters "that's what they said about Reagan."

And, like Reagan, Thompson can use his personality to his advantage. His charm stems from his persona as the anti-candidate. Like his Arthur Branch character on NBC's sagging "Law and Order," Thompson's appeal is that he doesn't say 10 words when eight will do (as opposed to, say, Sen. Joe Biden, who says 38,000 words when eight will do).

Romney wants to bring the slide rules and PowerPoint projectors of Wall Street to the White House. Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani wants to re-create his whirlwind transformation of the "ungovernable city" on a national stage. And John McCain, at least rhetorically, promises to bring Teddy Rooseveltian vigor to the White House.

Meanwhile Thompson seems content to sit on his porch whittling a piece of wood with his pocketknife while offering pearls of wisdom out of an old Bartles & Jaymes commercial. It's all a bit hokey and canned, to be sure. But if Thompson's back-to-basics rhetoric proves to be more than schmaltz, it could be very popular with conservatives.

Activism and energy in the Oval Office have not always been conservative priorities. Applying the best practices of the private sector to government, as Romney wants to do, is certainly one kind of reform. But trimming the responsibilities of government to a few important and constitutional functions would also constitute real reform. Right now, the only bandwagon for a message even remotely like that is the Ron Paul campaign, and unfortunately, that bandwagon has no brakes. It long ago barreled past conservatism to swampy territory outside the borders of common sense.

Thompson could be different. While all the other candidates have a "can-do" personality, Thompson has a "won't-do" personality. And that's something many of us think has long been missing from the White House.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Tennessee
KEYWORDS: electionpresident; elections; fred; fredthompson; gop; johnmccain; jonahgoldberg; mittromney; paulbearers; paulestinians; republicans; rinorudy; ronpaul; rudygiuliani; rudymcromney; thompson; wildamericanshrimp; willardtheweatherman
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1 posted on 09/08/2007 4:44:43 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
Romney wants to bring the slide rules and PowerPoint projectors of Wall Street to the White House. Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani wants to re-create his whirlwind transformation of the "ungovernable city" on a national stage. And John McCain, at least rhetorically, promises to bring Teddy Rooseveltian vigor to the White House.

That is what is so sad about the GOP You lost me there Jonah---THREE LOSERS
2 posted on 09/08/2007 4:53:54 AM PDT by uncbob (m first)
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To: Kaslin

“But trimming the responsibilities of government to a few important and constitutional functions would also constitute real reform. Right now, the only bandwagon for a message even remotely like that is the Ron Paul campaign, and unfortunately, that bandwagon has no brakes. It long ago barreled past conservatism to swampy territory outside the borders of common sense.” I couldn’t have said it better, myself! LOL


3 posted on 09/08/2007 4:54:54 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Our next president: Fred Thompson!! http://www.ImWithFred.com)
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To: Kaslin
Bump!

FRED VETS, SIGN UP TODAY AT:

4 posted on 09/08/2007 4:55:30 AM PDT by W04Man (I'm Now With Fred http://Vets4Fred.net)
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To: Kaslin
One problem is that Thompson took a really long time getting into the race

Actually, the other candidates, on both sides, got into this race WAY to early IMHO. Time will tell.

5 posted on 09/08/2007 5:04:07 AM PDT by b4its2late (FOOTBALL REFEREES: It's tough playing with us, but you can't play the game without us.)
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To: uncbob
Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani wants to re-create his whirlwind transformation of the "ungovernable city" on a national stage.

Ruby Julie-Annie wants to give them welfare... Thompson wants them deported...

What planet is Goldberg on?

Oh, I forgot, the New York media planet.

6 posted on 09/08/2007 5:06:10 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Kaslin

People seem to be really afraid of Fred. If he is so unelectable then why do they bother to castigate him? What is really funny are the Rudy McRomney lovers. They tell us to vote for Rudy, or whomever, even though they don’t have good conservative vaules because we need to “compromise”, at the same time they say NOT to vote for Fred because he isn’t REALLY conservative. I guess they can’t seem to make up their minds what we really need in the white house.


7 posted on 09/08/2007 5:08:03 AM PDT by calex59
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To: calex59

I would be for Fred, but frankly, in this time of soundbites and superficiality, he comes across poorly. I hope I’m misjudging America. From what I’ve seen, he isn’t ready for TV. Huckabee is impressive as a candidate, unfortunately, I don’t trust his views on the proper role of government (spending).


8 posted on 09/08/2007 5:21:12 AM PDT by PghBaldy (Bill O'Loofah is trying too hard to be moderate)
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To: Kaslin
I like Thompson, but I've been pretty much immune to his cult of personality. It's amazing: Just say "I don't get it" about the man, and some Thompson fans will react like you disputed the wholesomeness of their mother's recreational habits.

I don't get it either. It's like people getting passionately excited over a Gerald Ford or Howard Baker. If it ends up being Fred versus Hillary, then I'm all for Fred, but so far his appeal to me is as deep as that rented red truck he drove around when he ran for the Senate.

9 posted on 09/08/2007 5:36:50 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo (Only Duncan Hunter would inspire a tagline from me)
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To: PghBaldy

Who you been watching?

It’s amazing that you can say this if you’ve been seeing the same guy in action that I have.


10 posted on 09/08/2007 6:38:46 AM PDT by John Valentine
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To: PghBaldy
I would be for Fred, but frankly, in this time of soundbites and superficiality, he comes across poorly

Are you saying that if he didn't come across so poorly he would be in the #1 position rather than #2?

11 posted on 09/08/2007 6:41:32 AM PDT by HerrBlucher (He's the coolest thing around, gonna shut HRC down, gonna turn it on, wind it up, blow em out, FDT!)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

And what?

You’re proposing Duncan Hunter as someone who can get folk’s juices flowing?

My question to you is, When?

The man has the charisma and presence of Ben Stein but without the droll wit.


12 posted on 09/08/2007 6:42:02 AM PDT by John Valentine
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To: Kaslin
Meanwhile Thompson seems content to sit on his porch whittling a piece of wood with his pocketknife while offering pearls of wisdom out of an old Bartles & Jaymes commercial.

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LOL! Ah, Jonah. :)

13 posted on 09/08/2007 6:46:19 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: PghBaldy
Behold the next president of the United States.:)


14 posted on 09/08/2007 6:50:49 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: PghBaldy
While I don't agree with you, I know good republicans who don't want Hillary to win, who do agree with you.

What I like about Fred is: he doesn't inspire me to assume he's the savior of the republic. In other words, he's unemotional. He has ideas. He's prepared to defend them. He hasn't so far used his family as a backdrop. And he's not letting the media talking heads dictate his campaign, his policies, or his opinions. Meaning he has a vision all his own and he's not going to change it because the media is making fun of him. I think it's called a backbone.

I also like that he seems intent on changing the status quo of 45 second answers to complicated questions. If he can change the current monologue to a dialogue and get Hillary off her canned-speech soundbites, we'll have a winner. She can't respond to a real debate without becoming angry. Obama also won't have a chance against him. He's too much of a lightweight. I hope the whole election process changes. Hillary's playing by the old rule book. I hope Fred changes the rules and changes the playing field.

15 posted on 09/08/2007 6:55:06 AM PDT by carmody
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To: b4its2late
Actually, the other candidates, on both sides, got into this race WAY to early IMHO.

It was a MSM bum-rush... and the RNC hacks in D.C. seemed all too willing to indulge them...

17 posted on 09/08/2007 7:00:06 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo; Kaslin

I’ll give Thompson this much: Like Reagan, he communicates very well, and is good with a quip or two. And, like Reagan, he exudes sincerity. What remains to be seen is whether he will be correct on virtually all issues of importance, as was Reagan.


18 posted on 09/08/2007 7:00:45 AM PDT by Larry Lucido (Hunter 2008)
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To: calex59
What is really funny are the Rudy McRomney lovers. They tell us to vote for Rudy, or whomever, even though they don’t have good conservative vaules because we need to “compromise”, at the same time they say NOT to vote for Fred because he isn’t REALLY conservative.

Exactly.

19 posted on 09/08/2007 7:01:47 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Kaslin

Reagan was always criticized for being lazy, taking naps during the day and so on who’d that work out?

The most important thing is that the president get 3 to 4 BIG things right and teels his subordinates tio get it done.

Foreign policy / WOT
Lower gov spending
Lower taxes
Illegal immigration
Conservative judicial appointments

Get up and send the right message on these areas every day, tell congress and the executive branch to get to work and then kick back and be lazy. I don’t need the president to be the energizer bunny. I need the president to have the CORRECT vision for the country on these issues, the ability to COMMUNICATE that vision. The CONVICTION about that vision to not be swayed by the liberal and media elites.

The rest is noise.


20 posted on 09/08/2007 7:02:47 AM PDT by Leto
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