Anti-immigration forces warn of plot (RECONQUISTA)

Associated Press ^ | 9.8.07 | TRAVIS LOLLER and PETER PRENGAMAN

[Kimberly GG]

LOS ANGELES - On the far fringes of the pro-immigration movement, some Hispanic activists openly yearn for the day when immigrants rise up and retake the American Southwest, more than 150 years after the U.S. annexed it.

"If somebody steals your car, how much of it do you want back? Just the tires? The seats?" asks Olin Tezcatlipoca of the Los Angeles-based Mexica Movement.

[Kimberly GG]

"Aztlan belongs to those who plant the seeds, water the fields, and gather the crops and not to the foreign Europeans," the manifesto reads. "With our heart in our hands and our hands in the soil, we declare the independence of our mestizo nation. We are a bronze people with a bronze culture."

[Kimberly GG]

Reference quotes:

http://www.americanpatrol.com/REFERENCE/QuotesByRecons030404.html

[Free Vulcan]

Mexico is a liberated colony just like we are. They are no more ‘mestizo’ than the U.S., nor were the cultures in the southwest ever part of the Aztec culture that these reconquista types claim as their own. Mexico happened to hold those lands, and for only 25 years, because of the efforts of Spain, a European power, not because they were traditionally part of some pre-Columbian empire that existed.

[Darkwolf377]

On the far fringes of the pro-immigration movement, some Hispanic activists openly yearn for the day when immigrants rise up and retake the American Southwest

Geez, AP, sprain your neck from that SPIN?

[Kimberly GG]

I take it you have seen this crazy website:

http://www.mexica-movement.org/

[6SJ7]

We are a bronze people with a bronze culture.

Bronze Age, perhaps.

[PeteB570]

And I bet they said that in Spanish.

Just wait until the UN declares CA an independent Latino state like Kosovo (soon).

[kb2614]

"Aztlan belongs to those who plant the seeds, water the fields, and gather the crops and not to the foreign Europeans,"

Well, that should make it easy to reconquer them again, BWHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Ya know, the reasons those nasty "foreign Europeans" conquered the Aztlanwhatevers so easily is because they didn't advance culturally beyond planting seeds, watering fields, and gathering crops.

yes, I know Aztlan is a made up fantasy. Kinda like Atlantis, Klingons, & a Pittsburgh Pirates winning season

[Westbrook]

> I take it you have seen this crazy website:
>
> http://www.mexica-movement.org/

I don’t think that “crazy” adequately characterizes it.

These people are leaping, screaming, flaming, jumping-up-and-down, barking-at-the-moon LUNATICS!

[Kimberly GG]

Agreed. I’m just surprised AP picked up on the story.

[FES0844]

Kinda like the chocolate city???????????????????

[Last Dakotan]

Surprised to see this on the AP.

[WildcatClan]

some Hispanic activists openly yearn for the day when immigrants rise up and retake the American Southwest

It would seem to me they already have a fair chunk of it. If that isn't enough they won't have to yearn very long. All the candidates running for president with their new-found positions on border security and immigration seem to be doing very well for themselves. It doesn't matter what they have done in the past, it's what they are saying now.

Politicians are truthful, always, so if they say they will do it who cares what they have done or said in the past. Let's keep on following the polls and having our popularity contest.

Issues, smissues, who cares about that! Just give me a warm body with some name recognition and a war chest and let's run him past an apathetic, uniformed electorate one more time!

This time will be different. I've just got a feeling, a hunch if you will. Yep, we are stepping in the high cotton now. We are only at war on 2 fronts, technically, and then there is the War on Terror. So what if there are 20-30 million illegals? So what if manufacturing jobs are flying overseas? Abortion isn't a Federal concern, we can just give it back to the states, win the hearts and minds, that's how it's done.

All the above is a piece of cake, we have popularity, polls and the well-crafted words of politicians on our side. How can we possibly fail?

[gubamyster]

ping

[ALPAPilot]

Sorry, but it will be tuff to convince me that the Hispanics fleeing Mexico want the Mexican Government to follow.

[rbg81]

Sorry, but it will be tuff to convince me that the Hispanics fleeing Mexico want the Mexican Government to follow.

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It doesn’t have to make sense. Immigrants often try to recreate the land they leave, even if they left it because they hated it. Many Muslims (no doubt) came West to get away from Islam. But I’m sure many of these are back in the mosque nodding their heads to firebrand Imams. Likewise, Mexicans may despise the culture that kept them backward, but it is more familiar to them than anything the white man can dish out. Old habits are hard to break.

[elcid1970]

“Old habits are hard to break”

Just go into any supermarket and look at the “Mexican food” aisle, then check out the aisle for foods that actual Mexicans buy. Diversity, anyone?

The Mexican/Muslim comparison is appropriate. Both groups are in our society, but not of it.

[Haddit]

Cal State University Northridge Mural on the link below.

http://www.kabc.com/goout.asp?u=http://www.kabc.com/mcintyre/default.asp

[Haddit]

Here is a link to SDSU

http://www-rohan.sdsu.edu/dept/mas/aztlan.html

My Mexican sister-in-law would beg to differ.
In Los Angeles, in the Mexican communities, you will seldom see campers or boats in the drive way unless someone is living in them. That is because they all go back to Mexico every chance they get. They never break their ties to their home country. I work with these people and don’t know how they get in or out of the country so easy. Even when immigration used to have raids, their bosses knew their illegal workers would be back within a couple of day.

http://www-rohan.sdsu.edu/dept/mas/aztlan.html

[Gritty]