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Glenn [Beck] interviews GOP Presidential Candidate Rudy Giuliani
Glenn Beck ^ | SEPTEMBER 07, 2007 | Glenn Beck

Posted on 09/08/2007 12:24:11 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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Bye bye Rudy, you just stepped on it!
1 posted on 09/08/2007 12:24:15 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Rudy sure fits a democrat profile!

IT is for the murder of unborn babies!
IT is a big gun control nut!
IT covered for the invaders in ITS city!
IT surrounded ITself with thugs!

Why does IT have an R by ITS name instead of a D?


2 posted on 09/08/2007 12:30:14 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
>>>>>Bye bye Rudy, you just stepped on it!

Frankly, seems like Glen Beck is pulling a Sean Hannity. Beck's another Rooty shill.

3 posted on 09/08/2007 12:30:43 AM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Let's be fair.
Rudy was making a statement of fact regarding the law as it currently stands.
What I'm more interested in is if he's willing to make it a crime.

 
4 posted on 09/08/2007 12:31:31 AM PDT by counterpunch ("The Democrats are the party of slavery." - Cindy Sheehan)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

My god I really get tired of you shrill mouth foamers.
Try to participate in an adult conversation instead.

And before you try to direct any of your insane vitriolic ranting my way, know that my support is leaning towards Fred Thompson currently.


5 posted on 09/08/2007 12:37:10 AM PDT by counterpunch ("The Democrats are the party of slavery." - Cindy Sheehan)
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If the illegal immigrants who were in New York and not going to be removed, even though their names were being turned over when they committed crimes, then you wanted their children to go to school. Otherwise there was a real chance there would be even more crime in New York City with 70,000 children at home, with nobody to take care of them.

I like Rudy for many reasons but this is just, what's the word...stupid.

I have a feeling we'll soon be seeing articles headlined "Thompson gaining, Rudy losing support"

6 posted on 09/08/2007 12:40:49 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Love stinks)
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To: counterpunch
Can you deny Rudy is all that I said?
7 posted on 09/08/2007 12:49:02 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto)
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To: counterpunch
Let's be fair.
Rudy was making a statement of fact regarding the law as it currently stands.
What I'm more interested in is if he's willing to make it a crime.

I heard the interview and he expressed zero interest in this. In fact he said it would overwhelm police and we wouldn't have enough jail space

8 posted on 09/08/2007 12:52:27 AM PDT by dennisw
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GIULIANI: You do that by building a fence, a physical fence and a technological fence, and the technological fence is more important than the physical fence. The technological fence would alert you to illegals approaching the border well in advance so the border patrol can get there and stop them.

More VIRTUAL FENCE crap. This guy is no different than Chertoff and GW Bush. I'll believe in virtual fences when I see Israel using them.

9 posted on 09/08/2007 12:56:37 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

Clearly Rudy has taken some positions out of step with conservatives. That’s not in contention by anyone.
But let’s discuss his real record like reasoned and mature adults.
It doesn’t seem that you need to convince many against supporting Rudy here, so while you may not like many of the policies and positions he’s taken, there is no reason to disrespect the man, who after all was a great leader and true hero of 9/11.
I just hate seeing fever swamp posts whose tone is more fitting a DUer or Kossack.


10 posted on 09/08/2007 1:02:07 AM PDT by counterpunch ("The Democrats are the party of slavery." - Cindy Sheehan)
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To: counterpunch
How can you have any respect for him?
11 posted on 09/08/2007 1:05:55 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto)
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To: counterpunch; Sturm Ruger; Reagan Man; Politicalmom

Correction. Rudy was making a MIS-statement of fact regarding the law. Illegal entry into the United States is already a federal crime, a misdemeanor punishable by 6 months in prison for the first offense. The second offense is a felony punishable by 2 years in prison. 8 U.S.C. 1325.

For Rudy, a former United States Attorney and Associate Attorney General, not to know this is really stunning particularly since he is constantly brandishing such credentials, even in the dig he took at Fred in the debate the other night. (”Fred does a good job play in my role on TV”)

It reminded me of what he said during one of his interviews to the effect that there was a constitutional right to abortion and that he believed the government had to fund that right for indigent women. Another breathtakingly ignorant statement of the law, implying that a constitutional right should be funded by the government. This is not strict constructionism and it is not, by the way, fiscal conservatism, nor is it in any way socially conservative. This statement, which I am sure will come up again, manages to offend nearly every part of the Republican coalition, social conservatives, fiscal conservatives and judicial conservatives.


12 posted on 09/08/2007 1:22:02 AM PDT by Brices Crossroads
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Rudy is a former prosecutor. As far as a prosecutor is concerned, there is a Constitutional right to abortion, as the highest court in the land has said there is. For those sworn to uphold the law, it is a matter of fact, not opinion, and they are obligated to recognize said Constitutional right to abortion until the Supreme Court or Constitutional Amendment says otherwise.

 
13 posted on 09/08/2007 1:28:50 AM PDT by counterpunch ("The Democrats are the party of slavery." - Cindy Sheehan)
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Rudy was making a statement of fact regarding the law as it currently stands.

What statement were you referring to exactly?

Rudy's assertion that illegal immigration isn't a crime is most certainly not true.

14 posted on 09/08/2007 1:41:48 AM PDT by Ajnin (Neca Eos Omnes. Deus Suos Agnoset.)
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To: Brices Crossroads

Regarding federal funding of abortion, Rudy also has a point here if looking at it as someone charged with upholding the law as currently construed by the courts.

Just look at how Voting Rights has been applied. The courts have found that as a Constitutional right, the government has an obligation to make voting accessible to low income people. This is the same court precedent in effect.

Obviously it is a grotesque distortion of law when applied to abortion, but it’s what happens when liberal judges are allowed to reinterpret it to their whims. My concern with Rudy is that he seems quite content with the legal status quo, and despite what he says to the contrary, he may seek out judges who will continue upholding it as is.


15 posted on 09/08/2007 1:42:26 AM PDT by counterpunch ("The Democrats are the party of slavery." - Cindy Sheehan)
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To: counterpunch
insane vitriolic ranting

Giuliani brings that out in people on this forum, thats for sure.

Too bad he is not pro life, he could have been a good one.

16 posted on 09/08/2007 2:27:00 AM PDT by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

Beck just went down in my own polls.


17 posted on 09/08/2007 2:39:00 AM PDT by mmanager (Fred instead of Purebred, Crossbred and the Hothead)
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To: dennisw
I'll believe in virtual fences when I see Israel using them.

Start believing.

The security fence forms a strip approximately the width of a four-lane highway. At its center is the chain-link fence that supports an intrusion detection system. This technologically advanced system is designed to warn against infiltrations, as is the dirt "tracking" path and other observation tools.

Israel's Security Fence

18 posted on 09/08/2007 3:21:59 AM PDT by elli1
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To: counterpunch
What I'm more interested in is if he's willing to make it a crime.

GLENN: Should it be (a crime)?

GIULIANI: Should it be? No, it shouldn't be because the government wouldn't be able to prosecute it. We couldn't prosecute 12 million people. We have only 2 million people in jail right now for all the crimes that are committed in the country, 2.5 million. If you were to make it a crime, you would have to take the resources of the criminal justice system and increase it by about 6. In other words, you'd have to take all the 800,000 police, and who knows how many police we would have to have.

19 posted on 09/08/2007 3:55:30 AM PDT by Nephi ( $100m ante is a symptom of the old media... the Ron Paul Revolution is the new media's choice.)
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To: Reagan Man

That is one reason I dont watch or listen to Glenn Beck. He loves Rudy. The other reason is everytime I tune in, he has that dirt bag Sharpton on for crying out loud.


20 posted on 09/08/2007 3:56:58 AM PDT by Yorlik803 ( When are we going to draw a line a say"this far and no farther")
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