Message from Ron Paul

Ron Paul 2008 ^ | September 07, 2007 | Ron Paul

[NapkinUser]

Has this been a hectic and encouraging time! First we got almost 17% in the Texas straw poll, an event set-up to represent the establishment, with very restrictive voting rules. That 17% of the Republican hierarchy would support our views, after a full day of pro-war propaganda, is good news. Then we won the more open Maryland Republican straw poll with 28%. In both cases, as usual, hard-working, well-organized volunteers made all the difference.

The Fox debate was a lot of fun as well. It's true that a few of the network people are not exactly with us on foreign or domestic policy (though one famous guy whispered to me that he is a libertarian), but the audience—with lots of students from the University of New Hampshire—was definitely fair and balanced, as their enthusiastic reaction showed.

My opponents called for more war, more torture, more secret prisons, more eavesdropping, more presidential power. Some seemed to identify the government and the people as if they were one entity. But you and I know that once the government moves beyond its very limited constitutional mandate, it is an opponent of the people, a rip-off operation that takes our money and our freedom and our social peace, and gives us a mess of statist pottage in return.

The government failed miserably on 911 to protect us, despite spending trillions. So the answer was supposed to be the giant, socialist Department of Homeland Security, protecting you and me from taking our toothpaste on the airplane. I was ridiculed for saying that the airlines, which know best how to protect their property, should have been allowed to arm their pilots. But then, you and I really believe in the Second Amendment. It is not just a political slogan for us.

When I discussed the blowback that came from us intervening on the Arabian peninsula, Chris Wallace asked me if I wanted to follow the marching orders of al-Qaeda. I responded that I wanted to follow the marching orders of the Constitution, and not wage undeclared, aggressive wars that cause us only trouble. This is a mystifying to some, of course, but not to more and more Americans.

There was much talk of taxes, and a pledge not to raise rates. But as usual, I was not allowed to discuss my lifelong pledge to abolish the income tax. Just holding the line, when the government takes such vast sums through an illegitimate guilty-until-proven-innocent system, is hardly enough. We need to slash taxes and spending if we are to have a future of prosperity for ourselves and our families.

After the debate, many young people gathered around the stage to discuss our ideas and ask questions about them (and to have me sign their badges). My colleagues got no such response, and after a few moments, "security" ordered me off the stage. Can't have any such demonstration of interest in liberty.

But the young are with us, and so are Americans of every stripe. Even party officials. When one of my opponent said it was OK to lose elections through supporting the Iraq war, that set party people's teeth on edge, and rightly so. The Republican party is shrinking. We need new people. It's either our ideas or President Hillary, and more and more people recognize it.

But the media, and everyone else, will be looking at fundraising totals at the end of this month. They'll judge us by how we do. And we need help to wage what we hope will be a full-scale, 50-state campaign. Please help me head into the next quarter fully armed to do battle for freedom, peace and prosperity. Make your most generous contribution https://www.ronpaul2008.com/donate/. This Revolution is on the move, but it very much needs your support.

Sincerely,

Ron

[KevinDavis]

No Ron Paul would be reading the Constitution to make sure that Nuclear m\Missiles is covered in the Constitution..

[dragnet2]

No Ron Paul would be reading the Constitution to make sure that Nuclear m\Missiles is covered in the Constitution..

While others would never ever consider even using nuclear weapons regardless of the event.

[wideawake]

The very first, as it happens.

[wideawake]

Nice unbalanced diatribe.

According to our Constitution, the Executive has authority over the US armed forces and therefore may deploy them wherever in the world he sees fit if he believes it serves to keep America safe.

Moreover the Constitution invests the Executive with authority to negotiate treaties and agreements with foreign nations and to to define the terms of such agreements. He is fully within his rights to garrison their countries with US forces if the US Executive sees fit.

Go back to school before you flip out again.

[dragnet2]

According to our Constitution, the Executive has authority over the US armed forces and therefore may deploy them wherever in the world he sees fit if he believes it serves to keep America safe.

That may be true, but considering the current crowd holding on to the reins of leadership in D.C., using nuclear weapons would never, ever be considered. And their excuse would be, that even if terrorist nuked Dallas, they would tell us it was not state sponsored. When we all know that would not be true, as the terrorist states are well defined, as they were even prior to 911.

[Iwo Jima]

Any attempts on votes on anything that the precinct chair does not want is quickly ruled out of order.

And, yes, I am in the process of stacking the next meeting.

[Iwo Jima]

Your response diminishes anything that you have to say about these issues, including the value of your own son's service.

Shame on you, you shameful, shameful person.

[Badeye]

Yes, I do think he borrowed it.

[Badeye]

‘Now I have a mental image of one of the Plushy scenes from CSI stuck in my head! Oh well, I deserve it for watching.’

Now for some fun....whick Plushy is Ron Paul?

[SoldierDad]

Not sure what point you’re trying to get at here, but if you are being serious about your posts to me and not just attempting sarcasm, then please, tell me, why in the hell should I give a rats ass what you think? I think my family’s 354 year history in this country; history of fighting in every major war since the Revolutionary War give me at least as much right as anyone else to render my opinion regarding this and any other issue involving this nation. My comments regarding Ru Paul has exactly zero effect on the value of my son’s service and you can kiss my - no I will not stoop to your level.

[SJackson]

Badeye-A never dying thread.

SoldierDad-It's my understanding he was drafted, later enlisted in the Air National Guard. An interesting quote below, he seems to have some concerns about the nature of his service.

Congressman Paul: I was an Air Force Flight surgeon on active duty from about 1963. One personal experience I had that really made me start to think about the war was that I was doing many physicals on Army warrant officers who were seeking to become helicopter pilots. I don't know if you remember, but in the early years of the Vietnam war many of our helicopters were shot down. That made me think seriously about my role in the Vietnam fiasco. In one way I was not directly participating, but indirectly I was. As the years have gone by, I have become much more fascinated with foreign policy as a result of that experience and it has played a role in leading me to totally reject our insane foreign policy which causes us to get involved in places like Vietnam.

[SoldierDad]

Nothing in my post claimed that Ru Paul said he joined for non-patriotic ambition. In fact, I never claimed that he joined for non-patriotic ambition. Those words were posted by someone else, not me. I said that he used his military service to further his own career aspirations. If any one took the time to read his bio they would have seen that it claims he was drafted during the Cuban Missile Crisis (of which I am aware of no instances of anyone being drafted at that time - since it was before th Vietnam draft was instituted). His bio cleary states that he never served outside of U.S. airspace during the Vietnam war - I raise the question about how he managed to pull that off if he was drafted prior to the Vietnam war. If anyone has any information that refutes a possibility he used influence to avoid participating in Vietnam, please post it.

[SoldierDad]

Yes, the bio that I read does make the claim that he was drafted. But, during the Cuban Missile Crisis? Was anyone being drafted in that time period? I have never heard of anyone being drafted during that period and would like for someone to give information on that.

As to his words, I'm not surprised that he would make such comments after the fact.

[Badeye]

His personal knowledge of ‘insanity’ comes through....

[SJackson]

1963--119,265

[SoldierDad]

Okay, then there were draftees during that period of time. Thanks for the information.

[editor-surveyor]

"as an absolute, no-good Goddamn liar."

How Catholic!!

[Petronski]

I call them as I see them.

[editor-surveyor]

As do I.

[dragnet2]

Go and read the bio on Ru Paul. Serve? Sure, he was in the military - briefly. But did he serve his country? No, he used his brief military experience to further his career aspirations and never was in any way involved in anything remotely like real service to this country.

452 posted on 09/08/2007 11:44:35 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Division Soldier fighting terrorists in the Triangle of Death)

I read does make the claim that he was drafted. But, during the Cuban Missile Crisis? Was anyone being drafted in that time period? I have never heard of anyone being drafted during that period and would like for someone to give information on that.

533 posted on 09/10/2007 7:48:12 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Division Soldier fighting terrorists in the Triangle of Death)

You'd think such an expert on patriotism would know this.

And for me personally, reading your statements, mocking those that served, to further your political agenda what ever that may be is getting a little old.

I've seen you post multiple times about how your family has been in this country 354 years, has served in every war etc. You seem to wear all that on your sleeve, broadcasting it regularly.

My family has been here 369 years, fought in all wars, one of which had historic notable mention for his involvement in the revolutionary war, two of which left their body parts fighting in foreign lands, and two others have provided protection for 3 different Presidents of the United States. I rarely mention it, and to be sure, it certainly does not make me any better than any other American, and I will certainly not use my family background to mock or question others that served this country honorably.