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Underdog Paul Inspires Political Passion
Associated Press ^ | Sept 1 2007 | Associated Press

Posted on 09/06/2007 9:55:24 PM PDT by freedomdefender

Avery Knapp is typical of the Paul Web supporter. A 28-year-old radiology resident, Knapp describes himself as a lifelong conservative who voted for President Bush in 2000 before growing disillusioned with the Iraq war and federal spending.

Bush "did nothing but increase the size of government. The Republican Party needs to move back to its core principles," Knapp said. Many Paul supporters share Knapp's disdain for what he called a "neo-conservative clique" and hope Paul can spark a Goldwater-style insurgency.

At 46, Kevin Leslie has never bothered with politics. After watching an interview with Paul during his 1988 campaign as candidate for the Libertarian Party, Leslie told himself, "If this guy ever runs for president again, I'll back him."

Paul did, and Leslie was good to his word, starting a prominent Paul blog in February and traveling to the recent straw poll in Ames, Iowa.

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To: CJ Wolf; George W. Bush; KDD; jveritas; wideawake; pissant; Petronski; FreeReign; MNJohnnie

One last thing.

I can’t seem to find where Congress declared war on the Taliban, or with Afghanistan.

Did we declare war with the invasion of Afghanistan? If we didn’t, then Ron Paul needs to stand up against our involvement there as well.

You know, just to be consistent. I mean, if he’s going to be ignorant about the requirements and capabilities of a terrorist war. I understand his point about Russia and their 40,000 nukes, but any attempt by Russia to attack us would have been SEEN.

With these rogue nations like Iran, North Korea, and Saddam’s Iraq, we see the capability of anti-American foreign powers handing off WMD technology to terrorist cells to absolve themselves of any wrongdoing. It’d be hard to pin them. Understand?

Soviet Russia was an entirely different beast compared to Iran. But if it came down a nuclear attack, Iran would be far more invisible than Russia ever could have been.

And quite frankly, one nuke is deadly enough.

40,000 in the hands of a nation that knows we’d fire back out of retaliaiton?

Or a handful - maybe less than a 100 - in the hands of a nation that’ll hand them off to terrorist groups to be spread all over the world?

Honestly, I prefer the former scenario. At least then you have a nation with enough sanity to know that any nuclear attack would lead to nuclear war and thus their total annihilation. With Iran...well, you don’t have that sanity.

Then again, if we still treated treasonous politicians and media figures like we treated the Rosenburgs, maybe the situation would be different. I don’t know.

But the Cold War and the WOT are two veeeery different things. That Ron Paul doesn’t recognize this is troubling, IMHO.


81 posted on 09/07/2007 5:36:54 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Look at all the candidates. Choose who you think is best. Choose wisely in 2008.)
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To: County Agent Hank Kimball
You asked how personal liberty would stop terrorism. Your post:

"HALT! I command you to drop that box-cutter, in the name of Milton Friedman SMITH & WESSON!"

That's how.

I fixed your post in an effort to help you understand.

82 posted on 09/07/2007 5:42:06 AM PDT by Designer
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To: Oberon
...Ron Paul and all his followers will evaporate...

They will all be gone in Feb/March when primary after primary shows Paul coming in at under 1-2%. Till then we will have to put up with the lectures/ramblings/dementia from the Paulistians on just what color the sky is on their planet.

83 posted on 09/07/2007 5:47:39 AM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Drango

The Republican base isn’t disillusioned for no reason at all, you know...and the reasons why the base is disillusioned won’t go away with a Ron Paul defeat.


84 posted on 09/07/2007 5:55:47 AM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: Stallone
"..ensure we only vote for issues relating to ourselves."

Uhh..Careful, sir, that is beginning to sound like democracy.

85 posted on 09/07/2007 5:57:20 AM PDT by Designer
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
“We should be talking to Iran right now. We shouldn’t be looking for the opportunity to attack them. They are at the present time, according to the AEIA (sic/IAEA), cooperating, and by the end of the year they’re supposed to be willing to reveal all that they are doing. So instead of looking for this scenario where it is inevitable that we have to attack, I think we ought to be talking about how do you get along with some people that are deadly like the Soviets and the Chinese and the many others. We don’t have to resort to war every single time there’s a confrontation.”

This guy's cluelessness would be dangerous if he were to be in any position of true leadership.

Good freakin' grief.

86 posted on 09/07/2007 5:59:57 AM PDT by Allegra (Turning Vanity Threads Into New Socks Threads at Every Opportunity)
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To: malamute
isn’t this a conservative website ? are you lost ?

I know JimRob set forth guiding principles in a worthy post back in 2004, but I didn't realize he meant that there were one-issue litmus tests here.

If so, I think everyone supporting Giuliani should be booted off b/c he's doesn't toe all of the FR line -- notably guns and abortion.

Actually, anybody who supports McCain should be booted off as well because of, among other things (and other than strictly on principle), McCain-Feingold.

For that matter anybody who supports Thompson (waffler on McCain-Feingold, abortion, and affirmative action) and Romney (the former governor of the most liberal state in the nation who oh-so conveniently changed his views on abortion, gays, etc. only after he left the governor's office and started running for president) deserve the zot as well.

Only Duncan Hunter supporters can stay.

Happy?

Please. The hypocrisy of the usual thread spammers here is only outweighed by the chunks I've blown.

87 posted on 09/07/2007 6:01:24 AM PDT by King of Florida (A little government and a little luck are necessary in life, but only a fool trusts either of them.)
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To: Allegra

All of the above?


88 posted on 09/07/2007 6:20:49 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (I don't use a sarcasm tag, it kills the effect...)
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To: Allegra; CJ Wolf; George W. Bush; KDD; jveritas; wideawake; pissant; Petronski; FreeReign; ...

Yeah, that’s one MORE thing.

Ron Paul cited the IAEA as a reason why Iran shouldn’t be attacked in the near future.

The IAEA (directed by El Baradei, don’t forget that!) is an agency of the UN.

So essentially, Mr. “UN out of the US, US out of the UN” had no problem citing El Baradei’s UN agency to promote his anti-war agenda.

Mm-hmm.


89 posted on 09/07/2007 6:28:25 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Look at all the candidates. Choose who you think is best. Choose wisely in 2008.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

We need to get out of the UN before we can ignore them. Right now we are bound by them.


90 posted on 09/07/2007 6:29:30 AM PDT by CJ Wolf
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To: Allegra

I miss Lyndon La Rouche.


91 posted on 09/07/2007 6:30:30 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: CJ Wolf

I seem to recall that much of the UN thinks we acted without their authorization. Sure, we think that Iraq’s violations of the UN Resolutions were part of our justification for war, but much of the UN didn’t.

But I’m all for getting out of the corrupt cesspool that is the UN.


92 posted on 09/07/2007 6:38:11 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Look at all the candidates. Choose who you think is best. Choose wisely in 2008.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Yes we didn’t get UN approval to enforce the UN resolutions that we put in our ‘Declaration of war’...

The UN sucks.


93 posted on 09/07/2007 6:41:47 AM PDT by CJ Wolf
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To: freedomdefender

He’s inspired passion in me. A passion to see him defeated. He is a disgrace to the republican party.


94 posted on 09/07/2007 6:43:23 AM PDT by Vanbasten
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
I seem to recall that much of the UN thinks we acted without their authorization. Sure, we think that Iraq’s violations of the UN Resolutions were part of our justification for war, but much of the UN didn’t.

Yes, well as I remember, they were too busy cursing each other's mustaches and stuff.

95 posted on 09/07/2007 6:44:48 AM PDT by Allegra (Turning Vanity Threads Into New Socks Threads at Every Opportunity)
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To: takenoprisoner
Honored to be here.

We're a very welcoming bunch. LOL.

It's surprising sometimes how each of these debates results in sharp activity for pro-Ron Paul threads, people joining the pinglist, activity at the RP forums, blogs, MeetUps, etc.


96 posted on 09/07/2007 6:45:22 AM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: Tijeras_Slim
I miss Lyndon La Rouche.

And Pat Buchanan.

97 posted on 09/07/2007 6:46:12 AM PDT by Allegra (Turning Vanity Threads Into New Socks Threads at Every Opportunity)
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To: MNJohnnie

I’m a 27 year old lifelong conservative who grew disillusioned with the GOP when they failed to reign in spending, failed to capture or kill Osama Bin Laden, and then GAVE UP and attacked a country that was no threat to our national security.

Meanwhile, SAUDI ARABIA is the leading sponsor of terrorism, and something like 11 of the 19 hijackers on Sept 11th 2001 were SAUDIS and yet we do nothing to them.

And we’re supposed to feel great about dropping nuclear weapons on Iran? We should be helping to advance the cause of freedom for the large percentage of young and professional people who want freedom there! Not nuking them so they will turn towards the mullahs and radical Islam!

Where are the leaders that saved us from the Cold War? I agree that radical, theocratic, fascist Islam is the biggest threat to our national security and we can’t let them get nukes. But I have to wonder, what ever happened to MUTUALLY ASSURED DESTRUCTION? We should have started with Riyadh. October 1st, 2001.


98 posted on 09/07/2007 6:54:38 AM PDT by t_skoz ("let me be who I am - let me kick out the jams!")
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To: dcwusmc
I see the usual suspects are spamming the thread again... *yawn*

And I see you repeating the same sentence again.....
99 posted on 09/07/2007 7:09:41 AM PDT by elizabetty (Ron Paul - Because Moonbats Need Choices Too!)
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To: George W. Bush

100 posted on 09/07/2007 7:13:12 AM PDT by elizabetty (Ron Paul - Because Moonbats Need Choices Too!)
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