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Southwest fashion police set no-fly zone
SAN DIEGO UNION-TRIBUNE ^ | September 5, 2007 | Gerry Braun

Posted on 09/05/2007 10:37:55 AM PDT by brityank

Southwest fashion police set no-fly zone



CRISSY PASCUAL / Union-Tribune
A Southwest employee asked Kyla Ebbert, wearing this outfit, to change or leave the plane.

As the mercury climbed over 100 on Labor Day, I called Southwest Airlines with a not entirely hypothetical question:

Could a young woman board a flight to Tucson today wearing a bikini top?

Angelique, the agent who took my call, assured me that a young woman could.

“We don't have a problem with it if she's covered up in all the right spots,” she said. “We don't have a dress code.”

Tell that to Kyla Ebbert, who was escorted off a Southwest Airlines flight two months ago for wearing an outfit far less revealing than a bikini top.

Ebbert, a Mesa College student and Hooters waitress, was allowed to stay on the plane, but only after she put up a fight and, she says, was lectured on how to dress properly.

I don't know about you, but one of my big gripes with the airlines is that they just don't take the time to dispense fashion advice any more.

Southwest explained its treatment of Ebbert in a letter to her mother, saying it could remove any passenger “whose clothing is lewd, obscene or patently offensive” to ensure the comfort of children and “adults with heightened sensitivities.”

Ebbert, 23, says she was judged unfairly by the airline and humiliated by the experience. Who wouldn't be?

She had a doctor's appointment that afternoon in Tucson, where temperatures had topped 106 all week. She arrived at Lindbergh Field wearing a white denim miniskirt, high-heel sandals, and a turquoise summer sweater over a tank top over a bra.

After the plane filled, and the flight attendants began their safety spiel, Ebbert was asked to step off the plane by a customer service supervisor, identified by the airline only as “Keith.”

They walked out onto the jet bridge, where Keith told Ebbert her clothing was inappropriate and asked her to change. She explained she was flying to Tucson for only a few hours and had brought no luggage.

“I asked him what part of my outfit was offensive,” she said. “The shirt? The skirt? And he said, 'The whole thing.' ”

Keith asked her to go home, change and take a later flight. She refused, citing her appointment. The plane was ready to leave, so Keith relented. He had her pull up her tank top a bit, pull down her skirt a bit, and return to her seat.

Ebbert says several flight attendants overheard the conversation and, after an embarrassing walk down the aisle, she took her seat and spread a blanket over her lap. She kept her composure until the plane landed, when she called her mother and broke down.

She took a photo of herself with her cell phone so her mother could see her clothes. That's when mom became livid.

“My daughter is young, tall, blond and beautiful,” Michele Ebbert told me, “and she is both envied and complimented on her appearance. She dresses provocatively, as do 99 percent of 23-year-old girls who can. But they were out of line.”

Who knows where the lines are drawn these days, particularly when it comes to dress? If you watch television, or visit the mall, or take in a game at Petco Park, you'll see women dressed in ways that, 50 years ago, were pornographic. Today they are stylish.

A Supreme Court justice famously could not define “obscene,” and declaring a thing “lewd” imputes motive. Did Kyla Ebbert intend to excite sexual desire on that flight to Tucson? I doubt it, just as I doubt that flight attendants are proper judges of such matters.

But neither am I. So when I arranged to see Ebbert in the notorious outfit, I brought along my fashion advisers, writer Nina Garin and photojournalist Crissy Pascual, who for years collaborated on a feature in this newspaper called “Seen on the Street.”

The three of us met Ebbert and her mother for lunch at Nordstrom Cafe. Ebbert, who is 5-foot-5 and has green eyes, is pretty enough to be a model.

Yet even wearing the clothes that scandalized Southwest, she did not attract attention beyond some lingering glances.

My fashion advisers were baffled, saying they saw nothing you don't see on a college campus or in Pacific Beach.

“I was expecting to be shocked, and I was shocked the other way,” Pascual told me.

“It wasn't a big deal,” Garin said. “Her skirt was a bit short, which was only accented by her heels. If she had been wearing flip-flops it wouldn't have mattered.”

Garin wondered if a jealous woman may have complained about Ebbert's outfit. I asked her what she would have said had she been on the plane.

“ 'I hope she's not sitting next to my husband,' ” Garin replied. “She's pretty. She wears her clothes well. But I wouldn't complain about it.”

Pascual detected sexism in the way Ebbert was treated, wondering if a man would have been asked to change clothes. Do men dress inappropriately? “I see butt cracks, a lot of butt cracks,” she said.

In its letter, Southwest said “there were concerns about the revealing nature of her outfit.”

I called Hollye Chacón, the Southwest customer relations representative who wrote the letter, to see if we were talking about the same outfit.

“What exactly was being revealed?” I asked.

She said yesterday she'd call back, but never did. That's pretty revealing in itself.


Gerry Braun: (619) 542-4563;



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: California
KEYWORDS: burkasforall; dresscode; flyingimam; southwest; southwestairlines
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To: donna

Define ugly.
It’s in the eye of the beholder.


41 posted on 09/05/2007 10:50:27 AM PDT by netmilsmom (To attack one section of Christianity in this day and age, is to waste time .)
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To: brityank
Methinks "Keith" was being a bit bitchy...
42 posted on 09/05/2007 10:50:43 AM PDT by Jonah Hex ("How'd you get that scar, mister?" "Nicked myself shaving.")
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To: brityank

(Ding)

You are now free to move about the country....as long as your outfit conforms with ‘Keith’s fashion sense’....

Somehow, I don’t think that ‘sings’ as the original version.

That said, this young woman can sit on my lap for an entire flight if thats what it takes.

I’m all about ‘taking one for the team’ ya know....(chuckle)


43 posted on 09/05/2007 10:50:59 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: NonValueAdded
Clearest case of Bush Derangement Syndrome I've heard about in weeks!

Now that's talent, my FRiend.
44 posted on 09/05/2007 10:51:01 AM PDT by JamesP81
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To: brityank
Hmm, I could go either way on this. Have her report to my office.


45 posted on 09/05/2007 10:51:18 AM PDT by Larry Lucido (Hunter 2008)
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To: Smogger
My guess is that “Keith” is gay, like a lot of male flight attendants on Southwest.

I was going to post the same thing. I am shocked it took 29 posts for someone to make your point.

46 posted on 09/05/2007 10:51:19 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: brityank

He was in a hurry to get to the Men’s Room. He had new taps installed on his dancing shoes.


47 posted on 09/05/2007 10:51:29 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: brityank

She could be Ann Coulter’s stunt double.


48 posted on 09/05/2007 10:51:29 AM PDT by Disambiguator (What's the temperature, Albert?)
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To: RedRover; jazusamo; Girlene; xzins; lilycicero

Here’s what our Military is fighting for — idiots like “Kieth”! I’ve seen less on high school kids in my area, never mind CA.


49 posted on 09/05/2007 10:52:25 AM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: martin_fierro
Could this be the elusive "Classy Green-Eyed Blonde"?

From the article: "...Ebbert, who is 5-foot-5 and has green eyes, is pretty enough to be a model".

50 posted on 09/05/2007 10:52:39 AM PDT by 1riot1ranger ("There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. ..." President T. Roosevelt)
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To: brityank

Escort her off! H%11! They should have had her operating the drink cart! They would have sold out in no time at $4 a pop! They could have sold tap water for that matter at $4 a pop!


51 posted on 09/05/2007 10:52:44 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (Support Duncan Hunter for the 2008 GOP presidential nominee. He is THE conservative candidate!!)
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To: Leofl
Imagine Rosie O’Donnell

I do my best not too.

Although more than likely, if "Keith" isn't playing for the other team, some middle-aged woman with the figure of Rosie probably complained to the staff.
52 posted on 09/05/2007 10:53:19 AM PDT by BJClinton (And then it occured to me: a real rocket scientist posted the Friday silliness thread on Thursday.)
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To: mewzilla
Good point. I wonder if they flew with the seat unoccupied, and if not, who took it?

She got to fly after all:

"Keith asked her to go home, change and take a later flight. She refused, citing her appointment. The plane was ready to leave, so Keith relented. He had her pull up her tank top a bit, pull down her skirt a bit, and return to her seat."

53 posted on 09/05/2007 10:53:29 AM PDT by FoxInSocks
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To: bmwcyle
Check where she works!
54 posted on 09/05/2007 10:54:31 AM PDT by Apple Blossom (...around here, city hall is something of a between meals snack.)
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To: mewzilla
Well, I wonder if some Muslim was having his sensibilities offended.

That is the same thing I thought about. They'd want her in a burqa.

55 posted on 09/05/2007 10:54:44 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (The measure of a country is not how many people are wanting to come in, but how many want to leave.)
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To: brityank

Wassamatterwitdat?

Compared to more and more of people who when they fly dress as if they are refugees from a thrift store, she looks like she’s wearing a power suit.


56 posted on 09/05/2007 10:54:54 AM PDT by PurpleMan
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To: brityank
“adults with heightened sensitivities.”

= jealous wives and Islamic men.

57 posted on 09/05/2007 10:55:21 AM PDT by SteveMcKing
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To: netmilsmom

I’m guessing this is just a setup. She’s looking for an out of court settlement for a little quick cash.


58 posted on 09/05/2007 10:56:10 AM PDT by donna (If America is not a Christian nation, it will be part of the Islamic nation. Take your pick.)
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To: donna; netmilsmom

What if she was ugly?

OR

300+ pounds wearing spandex!

EEEEWWWW!!!!


59 posted on 09/05/2007 10:56:26 AM PDT by Polyxene (For where God built a church, there the Devil would also build a chapel - Martin Luther)
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To: brityank; Paleo Conservative; All
PSA Stewardess grads show a bit of leg, 1973.

(more here)

60 posted on 09/05/2007 10:56:29 AM PDT by dighton
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